I'll start with an incredibly obvious one. For the United States the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle is not just the most valuable American coin but the most valuable coin in general (this giant bullion coin kind of feels like cheating N#26282). All but two were meant to be destroyed but some were stolen. One of the stolen coins was owned by King Farouk of Egypt then auctioned off. The buyer was later caught in a sting operation and later sold the coin with the US government.
Now we all heard that story before but what about your country or smaller issuers (and their hopefully intresting stories)? Although not most valuable to avoid this being a discussion about huge gold bullion coins (although those are interesting too).
I'll start with an incredibly obvious one. For the United States the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle is not just the most valuable American coin but the most valuable coin in general (this giant bullion coin kind of feels like cheating N#26282). All but two were meant to be destroyed but some were stolen. One of the stolen coins was owned by King Farouk of Egypt then auctioned off. The buyer was later caught in a sting operation and later sold the coin with the US government.
Now we all heard that story before but what about your country or smaller issuers (and their hopefully intresting stories)? Although not most valuable to avoid this being a discussion about huge gold bullion coins (although those are interesting too).
it baffles me that the rarity index for the 1 ton coin is only 92. clearly some people are playing some cheeky pranks :P
I'll start with an incredibly obvious one. For the United States the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle is not just the most valuable American coin but the most valuable coin in general (this giant bullion coin kind of feels like cheating N#26282). All but two were meant to be destroyed but some were stolen. One of the stolen coins was owned by King Farouk of Egypt then auctioned off. The buyer was later caught in a sting operation and later sold the coin with the US government.
Now we all heard that story before but what about your country or smaller issuers (and their hopefully intresting stories)? Although not most valuable to avoid this being a discussion about huge gold bullion coins (although those are interesting too).
it baffles me that the rarity index for the 1 ton coin is only 92. clearly some people are playing some cheeky pranks :P
And it seems that 6 percent of people have a double eagle on the version with only 13 known specimens. 🤔
Being serious, although the Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle has a fairly high mintage (especially for big gold coins) it has a numista rarity index of 23. I can see why people want to have it so much since having a big gold coin seems really cool, the design is beautiful, and coins of this nature are fairly interesting. American coin collecting is super popular!
Holy Grail might be overstating it as these are ‘only’ silver and still made in at least some quantities. And unlike previous examples these actually show up for sale fairly regularly, but still:
I'll start with an incredibly obvious one. For the United States the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle is not just the most valuable American coin but the most valuable coin in general (this giant bullion coin kind of feels like cheating N#26282). All but two were meant to be destroyed but some were stolen. One of the stolen coins was owned by King Farouk of Egypt then auctioned off. The buyer was later caught in a sting operation and later sold the coin with the US government.
Now we all heard that story before but what about your country or smaller issuers (and their hopefully intresting stories)? Although not most valuable to avoid this being a discussion about huge gold bullion coins (although those are interesting too).
not that obvious. for coin roll hunters the holy grail is finding a 1943 copper penny, as it could be found in change (it looking like a regular penny) with people not realizing it's an error coin (supposed to be struck in steel) due to it looking normal and cashing it in to a bank.
I'll start with an incredibly obvious one. For the United States the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle is not just the most valuable American coin but the most valuable coin in general (this giant bullion coin kind of feels like cheating N#26282). All but two were meant to be destroyed but some were stolen. One of the stolen coins was owned by King Farouk of Egypt then auctioned off. The buyer was later caught in a sting operation and later sold the coin with the US government.
Now we all heard that story before but what about your country or smaller issuers (and their hopefully intresting stories)? Although not most valuable to avoid this being a discussion about huge gold bullion coins (although those are interesting too).
not that obvious. for coin roll hunters the holy grail is finding a 1943 copper penny, as it could be found in change (it looking like a regular penny) with people not realizing it's an error coin (supposed to be struck in steel) due to it looking normal and cashing it in to a bank.
Oh yeah I forgot about that one. It makes more sence.
One lead example is with the Government with one silver example permanently in the hands of the mint and the other on loan. No others are known. The first circulating silver dollar was issued in 1935. It has a Numista Rarity of 97 so…someone's being funny.
Newfoundland: Debatable, but probably the 1946 C 5 cent “Fish scale” coin, with a mintage of 2000 - N#7427. Honourable mention to the 1885 Dime and the 1880 2 dollar Gold Piece. Prince Edwards Island: For PEI, they have a number of copper tokens and a (beautiful) 1 Cent piece however, the milled Spanish Dollar local variations are usually considered to be “the Holy Grail”: N#22552
For India (I will try all Indian Issuers, this is going to take some time):
India (British - Raj and Company) - The Holy Grail for this issuer would probably be the William IV Double Mohur coin, N#25922 and its pattern: N#88129
Republic of India: Either the 2 Anna coin from 1955 (large date, very rare) N#15791 or the 1996-2006 2nd International Crop Science Congress N#36791. Why you would use 11,000 coins for a population of 1.4 billion I do not know.
Mughal Empire: Several Grails, mainly Jahangir's, Shah Jahan or Akbar's special mohur strikes. Here are a few examples:
One lead example is with the Government with one silver example permanently in the hands of the mint and the other on loan. No others are known. The first circulating silver dollar was issued in 1935. It has a Numista Rarity of 97 so…someone's being funny.
For India: (Are we just counting “Republic of India” or all Indian issuers? )
why not all of them (there are a lot of indian states) I did say issuers/countries
One lead example is with the Government with one silver example permanently in the hands of the mint and the other on loan. No others are known. The first circulating silver dollar was issued in 1935. It has a Numista Rarity of 97 so…someone's being funny.
For India: (Are we just counting “Republic of India” or all Indian issuers? )
why not all of them (there are a lot of indian states) I did say issuers/countries
I'll start with an incredibly obvious one. For the United States the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle is not just the most valuable American coin but the most valuable coin in general (this giant bullion coin kind of feels like cheating N#26282). All but two were meant to be destroyed but some were stolen. One of the stolen coins was owned by King Farouk of Egypt then auctioned off. The buyer was later caught in a sting operation and later sold the coin with the US government.
Now we all heard that story before but what about your country or smaller issuers (and their hopefully intresting stories)? Although not most valuable to avoid this being a discussion about huge gold bullion coins (although those are interesting too).
The 1930 Australian Penny – a real rarity! Only a handful were officially minted, but here's the juicy part: some cheeky unofficial ones with the same date popped up as souvenirs. They snuck into circulation, making them even more precious.
I'll start with an incredibly obvious one. For the United States the 1933 Saint-Gaudens Double Eagle is not just the most valuable American coin but the most valuable coin in general (this giant bullion coin kind of feels like cheating N#26282). All but two were meant to be destroyed but some were stolen. One of the stolen coins was owned by King Farouk of Egypt then auctioned off. The buyer was later caught in a sting operation and later sold the coin with the US government.
Now we all heard that story before but what about your country or smaller issuers (and their hopefully intresting stories)? Although not most valuable to avoid this being a discussion about huge gold bullion coins (although those are interesting too).
For the Bosnian kindgom (14-15th centuries), gold coins of king Tvrtko are the holy grail. As far as I am aware, there only exists one, and its whereabouts are unknown. Right after the war in the 90ies, the manager of the National museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina went to an auction in Zagreb, Croatia. There, he saw that gold coin, and tried bidding all of his money on it (I think he had like 6 million DM - 3 million €!), but he was outbidded and the coin went to an unknown collector.
As for modern Bosnia and Herzegovina, there isn’t as much of a defined ‘holy grail’, atleast when speaking about coins, (our Central bank has yet to issue any commemoratives!) but my personal holy grail are two silver medals produced by the Central bank. There are like a total or 3 images online of them!
for my home country, New Zealand, the holy grail (unless you count pattern coins) would probably be a 1935 proof Crown, only 468 were minted in proof and according to Numista, it'll run you 11,000 NZ dollars
if you do count pattern coins though, there are a few that are one of a kind but I'm not an expert on them
For sweden its either the 8 daler 1659 which there exists only one private copy of or the gold 6 dukater from 1644 also only one peice known to swedish collectors
For sweden its either the 8 daler 1659 which there exists only one private copy of or the gold 6 dukater from 1644 also only one peice known to swedish collectors
Or the sigismund 100 dukater that sold for 1.8 million usd in 2018
Thank you guys so much. I have learned a lot and these examples are fascinating. :O
May I ask where you got your information from?
I thought king Farouk of Egypt obtained his Saint-Gaudens legally and had not ‘stolen’ it…
I don't remember where I heard it from and I could be wrong. What I heard was that the king sent a message to the US treasury someone responded that it was ok for him to keep it. But then the US treasury realized they made a mistake or changed their mind but they couldn't do much since he was the king of egypt. I could be totally wrong though. Also thank you guys for all these fascinating reads
For sweden its either the 8 daler 1659 which there exists only one private copy of or the gold 6 dukater from 1644 also only one peice known to swedish collectors
Or the sigismund 100 dukater that sold for 1.8 million usd in 2018
As mentioned a few posts before, that one is recognized as a coin of Poland, as Sigismund was no longer king of Sweden (nor was the coin struck in Sweden, etc).
One lead example is with the Government with one silver example permanently in the hands of the mint and the other on loan. No others are known. The first circulating silver dollar was issued in 1935. It has a Numista Rarity of 97 so…someone's being funny.
Newfoundland: Debatable, but probably the 1946 C 5 cent “Fish scale” coin, with a mintage of 2000 - N#7427. Honourable mention to the 1885 Dime and the 1880 2 dollar Gold Piece. Prince Edwards Island: For PEI, they have a number of copper tokens and a (beautiful) 1 Cent piece however, the milled Spanish Dollar local variations are usually considered to be “the Holy Grail”: N#22552
For India (I will try all Indian Issuers, this is going to take some time):
India (British - Raj and Company) - The Holy Grail for this issuer would probably be the William IV Double Mohur coin, N#25922 and its pattern: N#88129
Republic of India: Either the 2 Anna coin from 1955 (large date, very rare) N#15791 or the 1996-2006 2nd International Crop Science Congress N#36791. Why you would use 11,000 coins for a population of 1.4 billion I do not know.
Mughal Empire: Several Grails, mainly Jahangir's, Shah Jahan or Akbar's special mohur strikes. Here are a few examples:
For sweden its either the 8 daler 1659 which there exists only one private copy of or the gold 6 dukater from 1644 also only one peice known to swedish collectors
Or the sigismund 100 dukater that sold for 1.8 million usd in 2018
As mentioned a few posts before, that one is recognized as a coin of Poland, as Sigismund was no longer king of Sweden (nor was the coin struck in Sweden, etc).
