I would like to know what pre-Euro banknotes to collect from the following countries. I would be most interested in the year (if any) a particular banknote series was cut-off short (or if there are particular popular signatures, prefixes or variety of any of the following countries that may be popular):
Austria:
Ireland:
Italy:
Finland:
France:
Spain:
Latvia:
Netherlands:
Portugal:
Spain:
I bought a 2009 Latvia 20 Latu banknote after visiting that beautiful country in 2013 but have pretty much been shopping "blind" for not knowing what pre-Euro banknotes might be "tough" or desirable.
For Austria, the last 2 notes were issued in 1997 (500 and 1000 schilling), but there were unissued proofs of 20, 50 100 and 5000 schilling. They weren't issued due to the introduction of the Euro not too ling afterwards. The designs of this series are quite interesting, so here are the links to the Numista and Colnect pages:
"For Austria, the last 2 notes were issued in 1997 (500 and 1000 schilling),"
-Thanks for the tip "DoubleEggbert56." I see they're pretty pricey on eBay since there were only so many issued. Yes, those are exactly the kind of issued note I had in mind.
On other forums I've received feedback re: Austrian 1982-1988 pre-Euro are pretty popular Spanish no prefix or single letter prefixes Portuguese 1995-2000 "Portuguese Seafarers & Explorers" Issue
Netherlands 1977-1985
French 1968-1981 (& either first or last issues of 1993-1997 (I noticed 500 F P-160b/d are tough to find)
Anyone else?
引用する: "BCNumismatics"The banknotes from Cyprus, Ireland, & Malta are pretty popular - even with British Commonwealth collectors like me.
Aidan.
Cyprus & Malta are terrific to collect Aidan. I really like the designs (but rarely see the QEII issue from 1955-1960, let alone the King George VI issues).
Which years do you prefer (just before their entry to the EU or earlier)?
I think the Lady Lavery (Bank Of Ireland) series are pretty popular too (I know I like them). I guess any of these series (1928-1976)? Are there later series that are popular?
The notes of both Cyprus & Malta are extremely tough to find - not only the colonial issues.
As for Irish notes, the Lady Lavery series from 1928 to 1976 are very popular, but the last 2 issues are not so popular. Of course, I still collect them though.
This is my oldest Lady Lavery note;
The notes of the Currency Commission of the Irish Free State & the Currency Commission of Ireland are very tough to find, as are the Central Bank of Ireland's notes from 1943 to the late 1950's.
I have a few Irish 10 Shillings & 1 Pound from the 1960's.
"This is my oldest Lady Lavery note;"
Wow! Nice rare date! (there's no "drooling smiley" I can add here LOL)
My first world banknote was a 10 schilling LL note from the 60's in VF-EF which I gifted to my Irish buddy on my 2003 trip to that country. My family emigrated to Canada 2 centuries ago from the Waterford region so it was important to me back then. Since then I have acquired a few Duisenberg Euros printed there but need to get some of the older series.
Just picked up this P-160d 500 Francs from France:
P-87 25 Kronor from Estonia:
P-114a 1000 Lira from Italy:
P-50 1 Pound from Cypurs:
P-177 500 Escudos from Portugal:
(& got some coming in from Spain & Lithuania)
Italian ones are good if you’re getting started in collecting pre-euro banknotes. I just started myself after being gifted a 5000 lire note. They’re beautiful and they only get expensive in the really high denominations.
引用する: "GoldenGarfield"Italian ones are good if you’re getting started in collecting pre-euro banknotes. I just started myself after being gifted a 5000 lire note. They’re beautiful and they only get expensive in the really high denominations.
-Thanks for your input 'GoldenGarfield.' I agree & would love to pick up some more.
I picked up this UNC 1990 P-115 200 Lira last year:
(which was almost double BV) and it's predecessor (1973) P-103a 2000 Lira in AU+
auctioned for a better price but I have found them hard to come by (for BV or less). I love the depiction of scientists on these 2000 Lira denominations & would like to get some 5,000 & 10,000 Lira examples down the road.
"Here is my 5 & 10 Euros from Ireland;"
- nice examples Aidan. I believe Ireland has one of the lowest # issued & the Duisenberg signature is the tough one to get.
"Any good websites to get banknotes from?"
Like most collectors, I have had mixed results from eBay, but overall, I cannot complain too much. It takes a lot of time to get to know which buyers you can trust for BIN (Buy it Now). Some are fair/trustworthy but a small minority will send in flimsy terrible packaging or a "king's ransom" for postage (& must be avoided). During this pandemic, I have had to make allowances since I've had items take up to 4 months to reach.
Overall, I generally prefer True Auction Style Listings (TAsL) & stick to established sellers who offer discounted or combined shipping.
I cannot endorse any one site & have little experience with the others I've listed on my Money Market page.
引用する: "Serial_Number_8""Here is my 5 & 10 Euros from Ireland;"
- nice examples Aidan. I believe Ireland has one of the lowest # issued & the Duisenberg signature is the tough one to get.
"Any good websites to get banknotes from?"
Like most collectors, I have had mixed results from eBay, but overall, I cannot complain too much. It takes a lot of time to get to know which buyers you can trust for BIN (Buy it Now). Some are fair/trustworthy but a small minority will send in flimsy terrible packaging or a "king's ransom" for postage (& must be avoided). During this pandemic, I have had to make allowances since I've had items take up to 4 months to reach.
Overall, I generally prefer True Auction Style Listings (TAsL) & stick to established sellers who offer discounted or combined shipping.
I cannot endorse any one site & have little experience with the others I've listed on my Money Market page.
Thanks Serial_Number_8. Good analysis on your website of the do's & do not's
"Good analysis on your website of the do's & do not's"
-good to hear you found some of it useful.
"The Euro is not my topic, but do you determine the issuing countries?"
The prefix letter determines where the banknote was issued from. In the case above, the letter T indicates it came from Ireland.
X- Germany
V- Spain
U- France
N- Austria
P- Netherlands
(tend to be a bit more common) while:
T- Ireland
S- Italy
M- Portugal
Y- Greece
L-Finland
Z- Belgium
tend to be less common.
D- Estonia
E- Slovakia
F- Malta
G- Cyprus are apparently quite tough to get.
You can find this (& more) info from EuroBillTracker
引用するThank you, understood. And Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Latvia, do not print?
Liechtenstein uses Swiss Francs.
Aidan.
I'm just learning about Euros (& pre-Euro) like yourself. So far I've used EuroBillTracker as my go-to reference site for 2002 Duisenberg & Trichet signatures.
Things, for me at least, get a little sketchy once they switched to the Draghi signature in 2002 (for only specific denominations/countries). My understanding is that Germany (X prefixes) often filled in the slack for the smaller countries like Latvia, Lithuania & Slovakia, etc. Some of the newer German issues have W prefix & this is all new to me. But I have seen that Bulgaria also has a printer & there are now 3 German printing facilities for the 2nd (2013-2019) Europa series. You might also be wise to check out Bank Note Museum for info re: the newer prefixes & the Ligarde signatured notes.
I'm bumping this thread up b/c there's a lot of pre-Euro banknotes out there still selling for pretty fair prices (IMO), considering they're UNC & have not been issued for years/will only get more collectible over time: Lithuania:
(This 2007 P-68 10 Lietuvos is quite easy to get & inexpensive. The earlier set is a bit more expensive but can also be bought as a set reducing costs)
And this P-157a from 1992 France is kind of cool since it went under some revision only 2 years later to become P-157A (I would avoid the 1993 version):
Here's a couple French notes I picked up (P-147d):
P-154f
I also picked up the last 500 Francs featuring Marie Currie & her husband (issued in 2000). 1994 series seem to outnumber the last 2000 series quite a bit but that could be just a lag in the number of last year being submitted for grading.
I don’t have many European banknotes in my collection because for a long while I didn’t really add many banknotes but since my trip to Paris I have bought many banknotes mainly to my theme of depicting transportation or notes from current/former Communist states or banknotes from the Middle East/Central Asia.
The French 10 Francs was from when my parents went to France in the late 90s and the older blue ones were still found in circulation.
French 20 Euro Legarde signature from change.
Greece 1000 Drachmes any paid €1 for it in decent condition, but I bought it because I like coins on banknotes and coins on coins.
Finally Ukraine 1 Hryvnia from 2011 which I simply posted because it might be classed as pre Euro in a couple of years time.🙂
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Here is my recent acquisitions to my Middle East/Central Asia collection that I formally started a month ago.
Uzbekistan 5 So’m 1994, 200 So’m 1997 and 1000 So’m from 2001 all common but incredible designs.
Next I already own a couple of moderately circulated 5 to 20 Dirham notes from 2000-2017, but in less than a fortnight time I’m going back to the UAE (Dubai to be precise 2nd time round excluding the time to Abu Dhabi) and due to that we bought some holiday money.
So I looked through them and the only keepers are the 100 Dirhams year of Zayed (the only one in the lot) and a new polymer 50 Dirhams commemorative note which was from a UNC consecutive batch. Sadly there all the other notes (20 and 10 Dirhams) were very battered paper ones (no new polymer ones) which were last issued in 2017.
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Other than Ireland, Finland is the only Eurozone country that I collect in a systematic manner.
After 30 years of relative dormancy, I have recently reactivated my collection of Finnish banknotes, and will start plugging gaps…
- I wish you good fortune in filling your gaps. Don't give up on your pursuit as there could be some good notes pop up in the next 2 years. I would like to get more notes from Finland (only have 1)!
The Republic of Ireland:
My family emigrated from County Cork to arrive in New Amsterdam (now NYC) and then take a bateaux up the Hudson River to Upper Canada. Their first attempt to cross the Atlantic met with mutiny. A bad storm sunk their 2nd attempt but they were close enough to port to make it back on a skiff. On their 3rd ship they made it.
They crossed Lake Ontario from Oswego and settled close to Oshawa near Toronto in 1795. I have travelled to Dublin & Edinburgh where my great (many times) grandfather studied medicine. I've researched some of the family history, so I'm naturally interested in Ireland I but can only afford to buy back into the past so much & had to settle for this One Pound (P-8a) from the Bank of Ireland:
This Ploughman note is from 1933 with the Brennan-Cargan signatures. Other banks (Northern, Hibernian, Munster & Leinster) are much tougher to source in any grade. Check Irish Paper Money for more info on this fascinating series.
The next note is from the Lady Lavery series and is a 10 Shilling from 1968:
I do not have a 1 Pound from that series (& hope to fill in that gap).
Instead I have a 5 pound P-65c* 1975 replacement:
And my last note from the Lavery series is the larger 10 Pound P-66c (1974):
Other than Ireland, Finland is the only Eurozone country that I collect in a systematic manner.
After 30 years of relative dormancy, I have recently reactivated my collection of Finnish banknotes, and will start plugging gaps…
- I wish you good fortune in filling your gaps. Don't give up on your pursuit as there could be some good notes pop up in the next 2 years. I would like to get more notes from Finland (only have 1)!
The Republic of Ireland:
My family emigrated from County Cork to arrive in New Amsterdam (now NYC) and then take a bateaux up the Hudson River to Upper Canada. Their first attempt to cross the Atlantic met with mutiny. A bad storm sunk their 2nd attempt but they were close enough to port to make it back on a skiff. On their 3rd ship they made it.
They crossed Lake Ontario from Oswego and settled close to Oshawa near Toronto in 1795. I have travelled to Dublin & Edinburgh where my great (many times) grandfather studied medicine. I've researched some of the family history, so I'm naturally interested in Ireland I but can only afford to buy back into the past so much & had to settle for this One Pound (P-8a) from the Bank of Ireland:
This Ploughman note is from 1933 with the Brennan-Cargan signatures. Other banks (Northern, Hibernian, Munster & Leinster) are much tougher to source in any grade. Check Irish Paper Money for more info on this fascinating series.
The next note is from the Lady Lavery series and is a 10 Shilling from 1968:
I do not have a 1 Pound from that series (& hope to fill in that gap).
Instead I have a 5 pound P-65c* 1975 replacement:
And my last note from the Lavery series is the larger 10 Pound P-66c (1974):
Very nice!
The 1968 10 Shillings note turns up a fair bit - usually in Unc. grade.
Curiously enough, taking on Refereeship for Finland has jump-started my dormant Finnish note collecting! I will re-enter the auction circuit for these in the autumn and see if I can fill in some gaps.
One of the areas of Irish banknotes that interests me the most is that of the [url=https://www.irishpapermoney.com/irish-world-war-2-bank-notes-war-code-notes.html]Irish World War 2 Banknote Issues[/url], where a special marking, a coloured letter in a circle, was incorporated into the design of the banknotes (excluding £50 and £100 notes) ordered during World War 2.
Most often referred to as the the war code notes, there are 26 variations of the letters across the five denominations - a collector’s dream there!
They were printed during both the Currency Commission Ireland and the Central Bank of Ireland eras.
Irish World War 2 Banknote Issues[/url], where a special marking, a coloured letter in a circle, was incorporated into the design of the banknotes (excluding £50 and £100 notes) ordered during World War 2.
Most often referred to as the the war code notes, there are 26 variations of the letters across the five denominations - a collector’s dream there!
-Yes, your WW2 Irish coded notes are very rare & desirable. I would think just finding 1 for each denomination to be a worthy collector's goal!
Cyprus banknotes have interesting designs & are still affordable considering the small limited numbers. Notes from the 1960's are very tough and ones with QEII can be downright scarce (& very expensive). My limited budget allowed me this set of lower denominations from the series without the QEII portrait.
P-41a 250 Mils from 1968 (cannot find another example with 1968 date):
Cyprus banknotes have interesting designs & are still affordable considering the small limited numbers. Notes from the 1960's are very tough and ones with QEII can be downright scarce (& very expensive). My limited budget allowed me this set of lower denominations from the series without the QEII portrait.
P-41a 250 Mils from 1968 (cannot find another example with 1968 date):
P-42b 500 Mils (1975):
P-43c 1 Pound (1978):
Any reference/ webpage from where these notes can be purchased?
These are my pre Euro additions (ignore the Brazilian note)🤨. I know these are circulated but I got them at or near their exchange value at a Charity shop.
I’m kicking myself because they had a UNC Hong Kong from the 90s which was only 50p above its exchange value but I didn’t have enough change because I bought the banknotes above and a few books about Mayan culture and history.
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Any reference/ webpage from where these notes can be purchased?
Thanks in advance.
I just try about anywhere (Auctions preferred) & I have listed these places on my MONEY MARKET page. The important thing is to know the pricing so first check with eBay. The general rule of thumb: 41-43a (1960's) -expensive 41-43b (1970's)- less expensive & 41-43c(1980's) versions are pretty cheap.
These are my pre Euro additions (ignore the Brazilian note)🤨. I know these are circulated but I got them at or near their exchange value at a Charity shop.
I’m kicking myself because they had a UNC Hong Kong from the 90s which was only 50p above its exchange value but I didn’t have enough change because I bought the banknotes above and a few books about Mayan culture and history.
That swedish 100 sek note really makes me feel old
These are my pre Euro additions (ignore the Brazilian note)🤨. I know these are circulated but I got them at or near their exchange value at a Charity shop.
I’m kicking myself because they had a UNC Hong Kong from the 90s which was only 50p above its exchange value but I didn’t have enough change because I bought the banknotes above and a few books about Mayan culture and history.
That swedish 100 sek note really makes me feel old
Not that much though because they only left circulation in 2017 compared to other currencies.
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