Help with multiple coins to identify, Ancient Greek, Roman, German States, Old Russian and Unknowns [解決]

Good evening all

Recently I got a whole box of coins, including these that I have been unable to identify. Any help or suggestions as to their origina and possible identification would be much appreciated.

Here are scans of both sides, numbered with the commenst below. i added 2 euro cent coins for size comparison


The information on the coins I have are:
1. Possible fake (To be confirmed): Possibly Roman 17,25g, +-+32,6mm
2. Possible fake (To be confirmed): Possibly Roman 20,9g , 44,3 mm, not magnetic, possibly bronze or copper
3. Possibly Roman 12,0g, 31,7mm, not magnetic, possibly bronze or copper
4. Possibly Roman or Ancient Greek (perhaps Ptolmaic Kingdom) 10,2g, 28,05mm, Bronze, Brass or copper
5. Possible fake (To be confirmed): Possibly ancient Greek 10,5g, 29,5mm, nont magnetic possibly brass or copper
6. Identified: Coronation token of Louis XVI : https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xvi-couronnement-spl,fjt_08818,a.html
7. Possible fake (To be confirmed): Possibly ancient Greek (perhaps a copy) 3.5g, 19,2mm, not magnetic, a white type metal possibly silver?
8. German/Austrian State, Swiss Canton or similar, 1,35g, 20,5mm, Silver with possible value of "3"
9. Possibly French, 0,8g, 15,2mm, bronze or copper
10. Possibly German state 0,45g, 15,3mm, silver, value 1/24
11. German State Brandenburg-Prussia 1/24 Tahler, 0,65g, 15.7mm, silver, possibly km65, or 104 or 106
12. Possibly Salzburg 1650-1771, uniface, 0,25g, 11,8mm, value or "1", silver
13. Possibly German State Nürnberg, uniface, 0,2g, 13,25mm, silver
14. German/Austrian State, Swiss Canton or similar, uniface, 17,85mm, Copper or bronze
15. Possibly Hungarian Dinar, 1600-1700, 0,55g, 15,65mm, silver, possibly km174
16. Possibly Bohemia, 0,8g, 13,15mm, silver, II Kreuzer
17. Unknown, 0,4g, 12,6mm, copper or bronze
18. German/Austrian State, Swiss Canton or similar, 1,0g, 18,6mm, Silver
19. Possibly French, or Bohemian, 2,15g, 22,5mm, Copper or bronze
20. Possible Austrian State, 1 Kreuzer, 1600-1650, Vienna Mint or oppeln, uniface, 0,3g, 150,2mm, silver
21. German/Austrian State, Swiss Canton or similar, 1,05g, 21,25mm, Silver with value of "3"
22. Possibly Russian, 1 Kopek, 1650-1700, oval 12,75 x 9,8mm, 0,65g
23. German State Mainz (have simalr coins from Mainz with similar design), 0,85g, 17,7mm, silver
24. possibly Ancient India, British India, 9,3g, 22,1mm, silver (exmount)
25. Identified: Frence km646 https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1117.html
26. German State Pfalz, dated 1746, Eine Kreuzer, can not find this design in my catalogues
27. unknown, 4,6g, 25,0mm, copper or bronze
28. Unknown, 1,0g, 17,6mm, silver

Look forward to some ideas.
Philip

#24 is 1274/1858 Afghan Rupee, I think #497.2: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48743.html

Awesome, thanks Arusak

Hello,

Sorry to say that but 1, 2, 5 and 7 are for sure fakes.
#3 seems to be a sestertius of Alexander Severus but I'm not sure about its authenticity.
#4 is from the ptolemaic Egypt. Maybe under Ptolemy V. Obverse shows Hercules with the leonte and reverse standing eagle.

#6 is a coronation token of Louis XVI : https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xvi-couronnement-spl,fjt_08818,a.html
#9 is a double tournois à la croisette under François Ier I think, not sure of the mint.
#11 It's a 1/24 of Thaler from Brandeburg i think but I'm not sure of which one.
#12 is probably from an Austrian States, but I don't know which one.
#15 is a denar from Hungary. With what's left of the legends, identification should be possible.
#25 is a centime from France, dated l'an 7, Paris mint (A letter).

Here are some better pictures and a summary of the replies I go to date:

The information on the coins I have are:
1. Fake, confirmed by two members, 17,25g, +-+32,6mm


2. Fake, confirmed by two members. 20,9g , 44,3 mm


3. Possibly Roman 12,0g, 31,7mm, not magnetic, possibly bronze or copper, suggested to be one of the coins in this series, https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108830.html, still to be confirmed as this coin has SC at the bottom and the one in the catalogue not.


4. Possibly Roman or Ancient Greek (perhaps Ptolmaic Kingdom) 10,2g, 28,05mm, Bronze, Brass or copper, sugested to be Ptolemyses, but either III or VI. Not sure what to make with the comment


5. Fake: Identified as a bronze copy of a silver coin of Seleucid rulers of Syria, Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC.


6. Identified: Coronation token of Louis XVI : https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xvi-couronnement-spl,fjt_08818,a.html

7. One sugegstion on possible fake, another that it might eb part of this series https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145556.html (To be confirmed): Possibly ancient Greek (perhaps a copy) 3.5g, 19,2mm, not magnetic, a white type metal possibly silver?


8. German/Austrian State, Swiss Canton or similar, 1,35g, 20,5mm, Silver with possible value of "3". Suggestion to be a German state coins from Rheinland Pfalz - Salm-Dhaun, 3 Pfennig from Rudolf. If so, what would be the year, possible catalogue number?


9. Second suggestion says it is not from Dombes, so still need confirmation, earlier suggested to be https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces139456.html


10. Possibly German state 0,45g, 15,3mm, silver, value 1/24


11. German State Brandenburg-Prussia 1/24 Tahler, 0,65g, 15.7mm, silver, possibly km65, or 104 or 106. Suggestuion that this might not be Brandenburg, still to be confirmed.


12. Identified as Salzburg, 1 pfennig under Belasi https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72976.html, uniface, 0,25g, 11,8mm, value or "1", silver


13. Possibly German State Nürnberg, uniface, 0,2g, 13,25mm, silver


14. German/Austrian State, Swiss Canton or similar, uniface, 17,85mm, Copper or bronze


15. Identified as Hungarian Dinar https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59945.html, 1530


16. Possibly Bohemia, 0,8g, 13,15mm, silver, II Kreuzer. One suggestiuon is that it might not be Bohemian, rather German States. to be confirmed. Second suggestion is tht this is Falz-Zweibrücken 2 Kreuzer. if so what year, possible calatalogue number?


17. Unknown, 0,4g, 12,6mm, copper or bronze


18. Identified as Tyrol kreuzer under Sigismund the rich https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71584.html, 1,0g, 18,6mm, Silver


19. Possibly French, or Bohemian, 2,15g, 22,5mm, Copper or bronze, suggested to be a possible French Teston, still to be confirmed


20. Possible Austrian State, 1 Kreuzer, 1600-1650, Vienna Mint or oppeln, uniface, 0,3g, 150,2mm, silver


21. Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125930.html, date unknown


22. Identified as an ornament and not as a coin, oval 12,75 x 9,8mm, 0,65g.


23. Possibly German State Mainz (have simalr coins from Mainz with similar design), 0,85g, 17,7mm, silver


24. Identified as 1274/1858 Afghan Rupee, I think #497.2: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48743.html

25. Identified: Frence km646 https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1117.html

26. German State Pfalz, dated 1746, Eine Kreuzer, can not find this design in my catalogues. Suggested to be Pfalz (Karl Theodor) Schön#109. Do not have the catalogue and can not find it in my books. The closest has a FO mint mark, this coin only has O. Suggested to be https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34315.html, but the dates don't match.


27. Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5576.html, as Spanish-Netherlands coin, date unknown


28. Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145365.html, German State- Dortmund


So hope to get more info.

thanks for helping.
Philip

28. It looks like https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces137998.html
Nothing else is similar anywhere. The common thing about some coins are this Jerusalem Cross, the crusaders use it as well, it could be a crusader coin. Unfortunately the reverse is very bad, but Mindenor this: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145365.html are nice suggestion. more like the latter. it looks perfect match.
27. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5576.html
26. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34315.html but you need to add the info, there is another 1 kreuzer of the same ruler, but it's different, this is the similar brother coin to it. You need to add the photos, weight and everything. nice find!
23. I cannot find the coin in numista. but it clearly says Maximilian. In my opinion this is some german state. Try to find in catalogues maximilian (no matter I or II, III, etc.) this wheel in the insignia bugs me...
22. nothing more to add to this wire kopeek. It could be a local coin from some russian city...
21. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125930.html
20. it's definitely habsburg austrian dynasty. It resembles https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78886.html very much, but it could be from some other city under Maria's wing..
19. it took me one hour to look for this.. I might came across something interesting. it resembles https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80774.html which is Luxembourg and have both the 3 lilies and a lion. This could be another anonymous luxembourg medieval coin or medieval token. In my opinion add it to numista under Luxembourg and let the specialist there to search even more. Add my similar link page, let us hope we found something very cool. :))
The rest of the coins you pretty much got it.

This is it buddy, I hope this helps! I will see what you have for swap. hopefully we can do something?

15.
definetly not km174, it’s earlier and more interesting (and a little bit more expensive)
the date on the coin is 1530 (second picture, on top), so its a Janos Szapolyai denar from Hungary
H#886
EH#705

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59945.html

Awesome replies, thank you everyone.

Still a few to go, have updated the post above with those that have been identified.

1 and 2 - Fake
3 - Confirmed Roman, type still to be identified
4 - still to be identified
5 - Fake: Identified as a bronze copy of a silver coin of Seleucid rulers of Syria, Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC.
6 - Identified https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xvi-couronnement-spl,fjt_08818,a.html
7 to 8 - still to be identified
9 - Suggested not to be as was previously sugegested Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces139456.html
10 to 11 - still to be identified
12 - Identified https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72976.html
13 - still to be identified
14 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47901.html
15 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59945.html
16 to 17 - still to be identified
18 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71584.html
19 - still to be identified
20 - Possibly Swiss Canton - Chur - 2 Pfennig km11 (1601) or km110 (1661) I lean nore towards km11. Any suggestions
21 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125930.html
22 - Identified as a token, not a real coin
23 - Still to be identified
24 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48743.html
25 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1117.html
26 - Idnetified as German State Pfalz but number unknown
27 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5576.html
28 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145365.html

Philip

22 is not Russian wire kopek. The text doesn't correspond to any of them.

Most probably this is mordovka - imitation of wire Russian coin minted by the Mordva people in mid-Volga region. The one with hole commonly used as decorarion of clothes

The 9th I already identified for you in my previous personal message to you :))

Cheers,
Stef

Tx Stef, missed that one in this update

3. Indeed Roman.

Not the one you point but a bronze coin of Severus Alexander.
Obverse seems to be IMP ALEXANDER PIVS AVG and reverse something like PM TR P X COS III P P. SC in fields stands for Senatus Consulto basically meaning "By Decree of the senate". Reverse figure seems to be holding patera or grain ears over an altar at left and a sceptre at right.

Fun

12 is indeed Salzburg, 1 pfennig under Belasi https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72976.html
18 is a Tyrol kreuzer under Sigismund the rich https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71584.html

Thanks everyone, now half way.

I have updated the last post with which coins have been identified and which there is still info missing.

Glad that some of you are having fun with challenge.

Regrads
Philip

A guess for # 20
2 pfennig from Chur, Swiss cantons. Possibly KM#110 1661. Without the 2 below but a rosette.
Needs confirmation

9 is not from Dombes, just simillar but not from Dombes.

14 https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47901.html
but one side without any details left.

#5 is a bronze copy of a silver coin of Seleucid rulers of Syria, Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC.

Even more replys have come in, thank you very much. Here is a summary

Still a few to go, have updated the 2nd original post above with those that have been identified.

Below is a text summary. Those identified has been marked, those with a possible identification (6) have been marked, and those still in need of identification (5) has been marked

1 - Fake
2 - Fake
3 - Confirmed Roman, type still to be identified
4 - Suggested to be Egyptian Ptolemyses, but either III or VI, type to be confirmed
5 - Fake: Identified as a bronze copy of a silver coin of Seleucid rulers of Syria, Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC.
6 - Identified https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xvi-couronnement-spl,fjt_08818,a.html
7 - still to be identified
8 - Suggested to be From the German area around the Rhine, issued by a Graf Johannes before 1636, no more specifics available yet.
9 - Suggested not to be as was previously suggested Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces139456.html
10 - Identified as German State - Hohenlohe - Neunstein-Neinstein Heller km10 (1623)
11 - Identified as German State - Magdeburg 1/24 Taler 1620 km58
12 - Identified https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72976.html
13 - still to be identified
14 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47901.html
15 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59945.html
16 - Identified as German State - possibly Zweibrücken 2 Kreuzer 1604-1638 (will look it up in my catalogues to confirm ID and KM number)
17 - still to be identified
18 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71584.html
19 - still to be identified
20 - Identified as Swiss Canton - Chur - 2 Pfennig km11 (1601)
21 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125930.html
22 - Identified as a token or ornament, not a real coin
23 - Still to be identified
24 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48743.html
25 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1117.html
26 - Identified as German State Pfalz but number unknown
27 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5576.html
28 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145365.html

Philip

From the original pictures I made these, still to be identified, if it helps ...

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16 = Johannes 1604-1638
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Ca6IE5BTOvYC&pg=PA200&lpg=PA200&dq=KREUTZER+NOVA+BIPONT&source=bl&ots=P4b0SlWvMj&sig=ACfU3U2v1Y7ZptbOeHsIa_xEjy_cPRz3kg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQpOumx4XjAhUhSxUIHWaIADwQ6AEwDXoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=KREUTZER%20NOVA%20BIPONT&f=false

Obverse: JO D G C P R D B IU CL ET MO
Reverse: MONETA NOVA BIPONT / II KREUTZ ER

Longer version =
Obverse: JOHANNES DEI GRATIA COMES PALATINUS RHENI
DUX BAVARIAE IULIACI CLIVIAE ET MONTIUM

#08 See this Google book, bottom of page 1213, #4266. The legend is very close to the visible legend on this coin.
https://books.google.com/books?id=qiwDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1214&lpg=PA1214&dq=%22ro+imp+avg+pfd%22&source=bl&ots=D0M56VIbS2&sig=ACfU3U2LW95ZkwRfaTXb9zENt73-oYmzQA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDx7LixIXjAhXBaM0KHYK6DPwQ6AEwAXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22ro%20imp%20avg%20pfd%22&f=false

#11
Magdeburg: Christian Wilhelm von Brandenburg 1598-1631 1/24 Taler 1620
see: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2589713

引用する: "Pcoetzee5"​Even more replies have come in, thank you very much. Here is a summary
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​Still a few to go, have updated the 2nd original post above with those that have been identified.
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​Below is a text summary. Those identified has been marked (19), those with a possible identification (4) have been marked, and those still in need of identification (5) have been marked.
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​1 - Fake
​2 - Fake
​3 - Confirmed Roman, type still to be identified
​4 - Suggested to be Egyptian Ptolemyses, but either III or VI, type to be confirmed
​5 - Fake: Identified as a bronze copy of a silver coin of Seleucid rulers of Syria, Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC.
​6 - Identified https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xvi-couronnement-spl,fjt_08818,a.html
​7 - still to be identified
​8 - Suggested to be From the German area around the Rhine, issued by a Graf Johannes before 1636, no more specifics available yet.
​9 - Suggested not to be as was previously suggested Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces139456.html
​10 - still to be identified
​11 - Identified as German State - Magdeburg 1/24 Taler 1620 km58 (submitted as new coin)
​12 - Identified https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72976.html
​13 - Identified as German State - Hohenlohe-Neunsten-Neunsten Heller km10 (1623) (submitted as new coin)
​14 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47901.html
​15 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59945.html
​16 - Identified as German State - Zweibrücken 2 Kreuzer 1604-1638 (km6 submitted as new coin)
​17 - still to be identified
​18 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71584.html
​19 - still to be identified
​20 - Idnetified as Swiss Canton - Chur - 2 Pfennig km11 (1601) (submitted as new coin)
​21 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125930.html
​22 - Identified as a token or ornament, not a real coin
​23 - Still to be identified
​24 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48743.html
​25 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1117.html
​26 - Identified as German State Pfalz but number unknown (submitted as new coin)
​27 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5576.html
​28 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145365.html
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​Philip

​Updated with the last shared information.

Thank you again to all helping, much appreciated.

Philip

#13
Perhaps it is this coin from Hohenlohe-Neuenstein-Neuenstein:
https://books.google.com/books?id=BBJjDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT3889&lpg=PT3889&dq=%22CGVH%22+coin&source=bl&ots=eXC-6zT_aU&sig=ACfU3U0Wq2ssk4CrVBaZR24d5PNZpHzb0A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwis1oOvjofjAhXXX80KHSNBAQIQ6AEwBXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22CGVH%22%20coin&f=false

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引用する: "Pcoetzee5"​Even more replies have come in, thank you very much. Here is a summary
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​​Still a few to go, have updated the 2nd original post above with those that have been identified.
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​​Below is a text summary. Those identified has been marked (19), those with a possible identification (4) have been marked, and those still in need of identification (5) have been marked.
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​​1 - Fake
​​2 - Fake
​​3 - Confirmed Roman, type still to be identified
​​4 - Suggested to be Egyptian Ptolemyses, but either III or VI, type to be confirmed
​​5 - Fake: Identified as a bronze copy of a silver coin of Seleucid rulers of Syria, Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC.
​​6 - Identified https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xvi-couronnement-spl,fjt_08818,a.html
​​7 - still to be identified
​​8 - Suggested to be From the German area around the Rhine, issued by a Graf Johannes before 1636, no more specifics available yet.
​​9 - Suggested not to be as was previously suggested Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces139456.html
​​10 - still to be identified
​​11 - Identified as German State - Magdeburg 1/24 Taler 1620 km58 (submitted as new coin)
​​12 - Identified https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72976.html
​​13 - Identified as German State - Hohenlohe-Neunsten-Neunsten Heller km10 (1623) (submitted as new coin)
​​14 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47901.html
​​15 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59945.html
​​16 - Identified as German State - Zweibrücken 2 Kreuzer 1604-1638 (km6 submitted as new coin)
​​17 - still to be identified
​​18 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71584.html
​​19 - still to be identified
​​20 - Idnetified as Swiss Canton - Chur - 2 Pfennig km11 (1601) (submitted as new coin)
​​21 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125930.html
​​22 - Identified as a token or ornament, not a real coin
​​23 - German States: Würzburg, Bishopric, Johann Philipp von Schönborn 1642-1673, Schilling, without date (submitted as new coin)
​​24 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48743.html
​​25 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1117.html
​​26 - Identified as German State Pfalz but number unknown (submitted as new coin)
​​27 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5576.html
​​28 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145365.html
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Only a few to go. thanks for all the help.
Philiop

#23
German States: Würzburg, Bishopric
Johann Philipp von Schönborn 1642-1673
Schilling, without date
See: https://www.ma-shops.com/schimmer/item.php?id=68420&lang=en
https://www.ma-shops.com/saenn/item.php?id=35870&lang=en

Numisquare You are brilliant. Thank you so much, really appreciate your inputs.

#10
German States: Stolberg (at this point in time known as Stolberg-Rochefort)
Ruler: Ludwig II 1535-1574
Mint: N – Nördlingen
Denomination: 1/84 thaler (körtling)
Obv. Shield; only struck with this shield in 1569 and 1570
Rev. 84 in orb; date split by cross: 15 – [ ] looks like a faint 69

Orb side should be rotated with the N at the bottom of the coin.
See:
https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=170809002&lang=en
https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=170822002&lang=en

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9 - Double tournois à la croisette (Henri II ou François Ier)

引用する: "Pcoetzee5"​Even more replys have come in, thank you very much. Here is a summary
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​Still a few to go, have updated the 2nd original post above with those that have been identified.
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​Below is a text summary. Those identified has been marked (22), those with a possible identification (3) have been marked, and those still in need of identification (3) has been marked
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​1 - Fake
​2 - Fake
​3 - Confirmed Roman, type still to be identified
​4 - Suggested to be Egyptian Ptolemyses, but either III or VI, type to be confirmed, possible date to help with the search
​5 - Fake: Identified as a bronze copy of a silver coin of Seleucid rulers of Syria, Antiochus VIII 121-96 BC.
​6 - Identified https://www.cgb.fr/louis-xvi-couronnement-spl,fjt_08818,a.html
​7 - still to be identified
​8 - Suggested to be From the German area around the Rhine, issued by a Graf Johannes before 1636, no more specifics available yet.
​9 - Identified as a Double tournois à la croisette (Henri II ou François Ier) (unknown type and year, submitted as a new coin)
​10 - Identified as German State - Stolberg see https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces171161.html
​11 - Identified as German State - Magdeburg 1/24 Taler 1620 km58 see https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces171013.html
​12 - Identified https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces72976.html
​13 - Identified as German State - Hohenlohe - Neunstein-Neinstein Heller km10 (1623)
​14 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces47901.html
​15 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59945.html
​16 - Identified as German State - Zweibrücken 2 Kreuzer 1604-1638 (km6) https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces171018.html
​17 - still to be identified
​18 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71584.html
​19 - still to be identified
​20 - Identified as Swiss Canton - Chur - 2 Pfennig km11 (1601) (submitted as new coin)
​21 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces125930.html
​22 - Identified as a token or ornament, not a real coin
​​​23 - German States: Würzburg, Bishopric, Johann Philipp von Schönborn 1642-1673, Schilling, without date see https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces171075.html
​24 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48743.html
​25 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1117.html
​​​26 - Identified as German State Pfalz but number unknown see https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces171017.html
​27 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5576.html
​28 - Identified as https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces145365.html
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​Philip

​Good morning All

This is going very well. Thank you for everyone who have submitted suggestions and identifications.

There are 3 more coins to be identified, as shown by ZacUk above, and three more where more specific information is required. For those where more specific information is required, gere are the photos again so you don't need to scroll up

3. Roman coin, 12,0g, 31,7mm, not magnetic, possibly bronze or copper, suggested to be one of the coins in this series, https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces108830.html, still to be confirmed as this coin has SC at the bottom and the one in the catalogue not.


4. Egyptian (perhaps Ptolmaic Kingdom) 10,2g, 28,05mm, Bronze, Brass or copper, suggested to be Ptolemyses, but either III or VI. More specifics required in order to confirm identification


8. German State, 1,35g, 20,5mm, Silver with possible value of "3". Suggestion to be a German state coins from Rheinland Pfalz - Salm-Dhaun, 3 Pfennig from Rudolf. If so, what would be the year, possible catalogue number? More specific information need to confirm ID.



Thanks again for your help.
Philip

The latest summary I saw was incorrect for 10.

The stag (deer) in the upper left of the coat of arms is definitely Stolberg. Another member attributed this to a Stolberg division, but you have it on your summary as something else.

8. Someone referenced a similar legend for this one. The line under the one they highlighted began "Johan and Adolph", which is what is on your coin. It is a 3 kreuzer, for a joint rule of at least these two men. Most likely Germany, but could be Austria. Early 1600s most likely.

引用する: "numisquare"​#08 See this Google book, bottom of page 1213, #4266. The legend is very close to the visible legend on this coin.
​https://books.google.com/books?id=qiwDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1214&lpg=PA1214&dq=%22ro+imp+avg+pfd%22&source=bl&ots=D0M56VIbS2&sig=ACfU3U2LW95ZkwRfaTXb9zENt73-oYmzQA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDx7LixIXjAhXBaM0KHYK6DPwQ6AEwAXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22ro%20imp%20avg%20pfd%22&f=false

​Look at Saurma, under Wild und Rheingrafen von Salm, Saurma 1031, issued 1585-1625 (undated)

Halfdime, you are very close. It is indeed the German State - Salm (Salm-Dhaun or Salm-Grumbach).

Unfortunitally I do not have any catalogues pre 1600, so I have been unable to confirm the exact type.

The legend, as suggested previously, and in the link; is spot on.

• It is a 3 Kreuzer from Salm
  
• Front is a four fold arms with 4 lions, with central shield
  
• Front legend: IOHA. ET. ADOL. SYL. RH. CO. IN.
  
• Reverse is a crowned imperial eagle, 3 in orb on chest
  
• Reverse legend: RVDOL. II. RO. IMP. AVG. P.F.D.
  
• Weight 1,35g size 20,5mm
  
• Undated
  

So now at least I have an indication as to the issuer. Thanks

引用する: "Pcoetzee5"​Halfdime, you are very close. It is indeed the German State - Salm (Salm-Dhaun or Salm-Grumbach).
​
​Unfortunitally I do not have any catalogues pre 1600, so I have been unable to confirm the exact type.
​
​The legend, as suggested previously, and in the link; is spot on.
​

• It is a 3 Kreuzer from Salm
  ​
  
• Front is a four fold arms with 4 lions, with central shield
  ​
  
• Front legend: IOHA. ET. ADOL. SYL. RH. CO. IN.
  ​
  
• Reverse is a crowned imperial eagle, 3 in orb on chest
  ​
  
• Reverse legend: RVDOL. II. RO. IMP. AVG. P.F.D.
  ​
  
• Weight 1,35g size 20,5mm
  ​
  
• Undated
  ​
  

​
​So now at least I have an indication as to the issuer. Thanks

​Compare it to this:

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-salm-grumbach-3-kreuzer-km-3-ca1607-09-ca1609-12-cuid-1185814-duid-1399901

Do you have Saurma, or a link to it? Saurma also lists it as Grumbach.

引用する: "numisquare"​#10
​German States: Stolberg (at this point in time known as Stolberg-Rochefort)
​Ruler: Ludwig II 1535-1574
​Mint: N – Nördlingen
​Denomination: 1/84 thaler (körtling)
​Obv. Shield; only struck with this shield in 1569 and 1570
​Rev. 84 in orb; date split by cross: 15 – [ ] looks like a faint 69
​
​Orb side should be rotated with the N at the bottom of the coin.
​See:
​https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=170809002&lang=en
​https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=170822002&lang=en

​Compare it to this:

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-stolberg-konigstein-rochefort-3-pfennig-dreier-1-84-gulden-k%C3%B6rtling-gr%C3%B6schlein-mb-41-1567-1569-cuid-179093-duid-400517

引用する: "halfdisme"​

引用する: "numisquare"​#10
​​German States: Stolberg (at this point in time known as Stolberg-Rochefort)
​​Ruler: Ludwig II 1535-1574
​​Mint: N – Nördlingen
​​Denomination: 1/84 thaler (körtling)
​​Obv. Shield; only struck with this shield in 1569 and 1570
​​Rev. 84 in orb; date split by cross: 15 – [ ] looks like a faint 69
​​
​​Orb side should be rotated with the N at the bottom of the coin.
​​See:
​​https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=170809002&lang=en
​​https://www.ma-shops.com/brom/item.php?id=170822002&lang=en

​​Compare it to this:
​
​https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-stolberg-konigstein-rochefort-3-pfennig-dreier-1-84-gulden-k%C3%B6rtling-gr%C3%B6schlein-mb-41-1567-1569-cuid-179093-duid-400517

​Indeed, would agree. thanks for the suggestion.

Note the upper right quadrant of the shield. Your coin has the two 'mountains'; the suggested coin has an eagle.

Thank you to everyone for you help. I will for now close this topic.

Have a fabulous time collecting
Philip