A courtesy for my dearest Oklahoman, who's previous thread was locked before the death threats kicked off. As it was largely in response to two paragraphs I wrote about the horses on the Stone Mountain Commemorative (well.... a bit of my usual diversions down different paths too to be honest) I thought I would repay his gallantry by reviving his request while he's busy at work. Being retired is a wonderful thing.
He is making a presentation to his local coin club on the subject of coins featuring horses. Specifically, the names and other interesting facts about the horse. Maybe the riders too, I'll leave him to clarify that.
I'll copy and paste the relevant responses below to keep the actual information intact and leave the chaff to blow away in the Numista breeze.
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The Stone Mountain 50c depicts those two Heroes of the Free South, Robert E Lee and Thomas Stonewall Jackson. Their mounts are respectively Traveler and Little Sorrell. Unlike the coin, the soon to be destroyed monument also includes our one and only President Jefferson Davis who is astride Blackjack.
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I might as well go and try to answer the actual OP question...
There are 1252 search results for "horse", but only 1022 of them appear to be coins (as opposed to tokens).
(There are also 334 results for "horseback" and 325 for "rider", which I'll try to check later.)
I was only able to figure out a few of them, however...
Albania 1 lek (4x): Bucephalus
Argentina 10 pesos: Huemul
Australia 1 dollar 2013: Black Caviar
Cuba 1 peso 1982, 5 pesos 1982: Rocinante
Jersey 5 pounds 2015: Copenhagen
Spain 30 euro 2015: Clavileño
Transnistria 50 rubles 2000: Mishka?
UK 5 shillings 1953: Winston
US 1/4 dollar 1999: Thunder?
Most of the other 1000-odd coins appear to be just about generic horses, unfortunately (some aren't even being ridden, and in a few cases they don't show up on the coin at all).
And of course a lot of coins feature Saint George (whose horse apparently doesn't have an accepted name).
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Phil, don't make any references to me on any threads and you will not hear from me. Keep your hate to yourself. I am not putting up with any of your garbage. period. If you want to take this to Xavier, I am all for it. Let him read what you wrote instead of Oggy.
Come on kids, can't we stop the petty squabbles and name calling? Lets not concentrate on our differences but concentrate on the one thing we have in common...coin collecting.
I don't agree with Phil's political and historical views either because I'm about as left wing as they come, but it doesn't stop me respecting him for his knowledge on coins and how he treats new collectors and it didn't stop me helping him out when he requested it a few months back.
Now lets get back to the task at hand. Now I have several coins with a horse and rider, but I don't think I know the name of the horse in any of them, because I think most of them are more symbols than depictions of real people. The notable ones are the Lithuania ones that Phil mentioned, the Great Britain rocking horse crown which depicts St George on his horse, and this little beauty that won me the Pacific/Oceania category of the MPCC this year
This isn't my coin because I don't have my pictures here, but mine is just as nice.
Coin Type: Brass semi-autonomous AE22 of Corinth.
Q. Caecilius Niger and C. Heius Pam, duoviri; 34-31 BCE.
Size and Weight: 21mm x 22mm, 6.24g
Obverse: Head of Aphrodite right, wearing earring and necklace, hair gathered at back of head in a bun.
CORINT below (off the flan on this specimen).
Reverse: Q CAECIL NIGR above, C. HEIO PM and in ex. II VIR
Bellerophon on Pegasus flying right, holding spear in right hand and preparing to strike Chimaera standing left below.
Left or right wing, we can all have a numismatic discussion about aesthetic coinage design without being hijacked by commentary about political/historical issues that are as neutral as the Rape of Belgium was, hidden behind some rubbish 'heritage not hate' pretence.
But about the topic at hand;
Hannover features lots of coins with horses on lower denominations, and on their coats of arms in higher ones, but I don't think any with riders; it was on their Coat of Arms and flag, so the coins of the United Kingdom from 1714-1837, when the two were in personal union, also feature the Hanoverian arms when coats of arms are present on their reverses. I'm sure there were other German States that featured horses prominently in their coats of arms and thereby their coin designs.
There's also quite a few late medieval/ Renaissance era coins from England and Scotland (like the Edward VI crown) that feature monarchs on horseback, but I'm not an expert there. I think there was Gun Money issued for Ireland in the 1690s with James II on horseback as well.
As expected, I'm working on the results for "rider" now...
There are 325 results (this includes tokens - I'll try to see how many are actual coins).
Much like how many "horse" coins actually celebrate the Year of the Horse, a lot of "rider" coins are Olympics designs (which almost certainly are not intended to refer to any actual horse).
Many Bulgarian coins feature the Madara Rider, an early medieval carving; the name of the horse is not actually known, obviously (nor is the name of the rider).
...283 coins, and I wasn't able to determine the name of any of the horses.
Note that "UK 5 shillings 1953" (with Winston as the horse) is the Elizabeth II coronation crown; there had since been many similar designs, both in the UK and elsewhere, celebrating various jubilees of Elizabeth II, but I was not able to figure out whether any of them were intended to depict the same horse or some other.
She is riding Winston on her Coronation crown. I have discovered that her favorite horse is Burmese, and she is riding Burmese on all crowns that show her uniformed for the trooping of the color. The recent crown of Isle of Man that commemorated her long reign looked funny to me. She appeared odd on horseback...I discovered that this is because the coin design is of her initial Great Seal. She has had two. And her first seal showed her on horseback. Her second great seal is of her seated and facing. Much like her design on the 500th anniversary of the sovereign coinage. Perhaps it can be assumed that the horse she is riding on her great Seal is also Winston?
I will present that as a conversation point at the meeting. There are one or two of us that will enjoy the discussion.
I want to thank you guys for helping me out here. I have no doubt that with a great deal of time and effort I would have discovered some of this information. But I do appreciate other collectors who have input. I will keep you posted about how the presentation went.
If it is any good, a paper could be written and added to our website. I would imagine that if we could start creating threads on topics it would be beneficial for others who attend clubs and want to do presentations.
Pnightingale, you certainly could fight your own battles, and probably using better english than I used. But just because you can hold your own does not mean I like to sit by and see you picked on. Too much of a teacher in me I guess.
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Hello colleagues
Patron of the Czech Lands St. Wenceslas on horseback. Famous statue of the dominant Wenceslas Square Prague. Coin 20 CZK
Only the name of the horse by which the sculptor was created is known
MIMAEL... I wish to apologize. I suffer from lack of fluency in European languages. I have the coin you mentioned and would love to show my club the coin. But when I followed the link, it is like Greek to me. So is the Saint riding a horse that has a name? I just want to make double sure...
Thanks for your help.
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引用するOklahomanMIMAEL... I wish to apologize. I suffer from lack of fluency in European languages. I have the coin you mentioned and would love to show my club the coin. But when I followed the link, it is like Greek to me. So is the Saint riding a horse that has a name? I just want to make double sure...
Thanks for your help.
Ahoj
Wikipedia will be more accurate than my English translation, The patron saint of the Czech Lands has just a few days' holiday, it's a great event and a national holiday
The sculptor J.V.Myslbek created a statue of St. Wenceslas, a model for the horse's performance was the seven-year-old black military stallion Ardo
The statue weighs five and a half tons and is high, including the spear of the saint, seven and a half meters.
I can provide additional information as desired
have a nice day
Ivan
引用する: "CassTaylor"
There's also quite a few late medieval/ Renaissance era coins from England and Scotland (like the Edward VI crown) that feature monarchs on horseback, but I'm not an expert there. I think there was Gun Money issued for Ireland in the 1690s with James II on horseback as well.
Equestrian depictions of the monarch are fairly common on the large denomination Scottish coins of post-union James VI and Charles I. Here are a few:
I'm not aware of the history of the horse. Perhaps these depictions are influenced by the monarch on horseback that commonly appears on the Great Seals of Scotland and England. It may be an avenue that is worth exploring. My current university dissertation is on Scottish coinage so I have spent quite a lot of time going through parliamentary and treasury records etc. I'll let you know if I come across anything that may be useful.
I want to thank each of you for sharing a bit of you with me. The program was a big success. Lots of laughs. Great questions. And a great story from a Brit who was there for the iconing picture of the soldier who passed out face flat in front of the Queen at the trooping of the color.
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OklahomanMIMAEL... I wish to apologize. I suffer from lack of fluency in European languages. I have the coin you mentioned and would love to show my club the coin. But when I followed the link, it is like Greek to me. So is the Saint riding a horse that has a name? I just want to make double sure...
