Coins made purely for collectors (except those released at FV)
Counterfeiters
eBay
Coins made from Zinc
Susan B Anthony $
Coins which use funky alphabets
Coins made from aluminium
Spanish coins (what's with keeping the same date for decades?)
TV coin shows
Brazilian coins (pick a currency and stick with it dammit!!)
Verdigris
People with better collections than me (not really)
Private mints
That ignorant hick at the fleamarket trying to sell George V 1D's for $10 each
Not having any coins from Greenland
TPG's (they now slab "gold flakes" and baseball cards!!!)
The Sheldon Grading Scale
Basement Slabbers who grade everything MS70 (yes, SGS and INB, I'm looking at you)
Fraudulent chargebacks by eBay buyers
People who refer to pennys as cents and vice versa
I could go on all night. Did I miss anything obvious or do you have a pet hate of your own?
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You're missing square-shaped coins. Coins that have denominations of 15 cents (the little Bahamians). The bank running out of Eisenhower dollars. Fake Chinese coins (there are tons). Counterstamped coins. Tokens. Almost-perfect coins ruined with an obvious flaw that stands out. Bent coins. Holed coins (holed after production for jewelry).
And the two that piss me off the most: people who turn coins into jewelry and "melt value" buyers.
Kenny
- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.
How about postal services which take so long to deliver packets (if they ever do deliver it) that the recipient gives up and decides the sender is a con artist or thief?
Postmen who rip open envelopes and packets and steal the contents (Jamaica I am looking at you, we cant even send a birthday or christmas card to anyone living in Jamaica).
引用する: pnightingaleMy top twenty coin related gripes for 2011:-
eBay...
Coins made from Zinc
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Coins made from aluminium
Aw, those are three of my favorite things!
1. Ebay is pretty much the only place I can go to hunt for specific foreign coins I want to fill holes in my collection due to the fact that there are no coin shops in my area that deal in world coins aside from the "big ol' tubs of dirty furr'ner money" that you have to pick through.
2. Rarer aluminum coins in absolutely great condition are perhaps the best deal in this market. I've practically completed my East German small change collection in a matter of months and with an expenditure of maybe $10.00 total due to the undervaluation of many aluminum coins. There are many early DDR pfennig types that Krause values at $40 or more for an MS60 example which can be found on ebay (see above) for pennies on the dollar.
3. For much the same reason, I love zinc coins -- but only because finding an XF to MS condition example is like finding a Christmas present you forgot to open. I have come across several MS and even proof (which is strange in its own right) zinc coins without a trace of the customary oxidation, corrosion, or whatever that stuff tends to be, and that makes me happy.
My theory is that while the melt/bullion value types are ruling the market, I'm going to take advantage of it by building up my "Rare Base-Metal Coin Collection".
I have a love/hate relationship with eBay - I love the vast market and even a few of the people there, I hate the fee structure, the tolerance of scammers (see SGS & INB above), the dishonest buyers ...... I reckon it's free market forces at their worst. (heavens, I sound like Matt now)
Heritage is far better in every respect except for price, you can feel comfortable about buying there but there is an even balance between buyers and sellers in terms of knowledge. You won't get ripped off, nor will you find much in the way of bargains. I have made some spectacular eBay buys this year alone. It requires patience and disipline, neither of which my God saw fit to supply me with in abundance so I reckon if I can do it anyone can. It's much akin to the Wild West and that's part of the attraction.
I'm done selling there however. As things currently stand any buyer can claim a refund for any reason, any time, from anyone through their Credit Card company. Sending coins by regular mail is just an invitation for fraudulent charge backs. Sending with delivery confirmation or even signed for delivery won't help. It's merely confirmation that a package has arrived, the buyer can still pull the good ole "it was an empty envelope" trick and get a refund.
To add insult to injury, PayPal (owned by eBay) charge sellers $30 for any chargeback, on top of their already exorbitant fees. So until the Feds, banksters, CC companies, eBay, PayPal and the like step up and address the issue there will continue to be zero incentive to sell coins for me except for face to face transactions or with people I know and trust.
I know I'm not alone in this but I can see the upside. I believe that e-commerce will shrink in terms of individual collectors. Buying and selling, trading up a little here and there, recovering some of the cost by selling the displaced coins.... it's going to be a thing of the past. A return to bartering is where we're headed. Sell your eBay shares and buy "forever" stamps.
I agree also that this is a great buying opportunity for non PM coins. Coin dealers have been spoiled by an easy market in the past few years. Eager buyers and no specialised knowledge required, just a set of digital scales and an internet connection to the Kitco spot price. Silver prices have fallen by around 40% since reaching $49 per oz earlier this year so maybe the "melt" people will go elsewhere and leave us in peace to collect coins. Many of the "coin dealers" will hopefully go with them, leaving behind the better ones who are going to be trying really hard to regain the business and trust of the collectors they were happy to ignore during the PM craze.
I predict that 2012 will be a happy year for coin collectors accross the fruited plains.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
引用する: pnightingaleI have a love/hate relationship with eBay - I love the vast market and even a few of the people there, I hate the fee structure, the tolerance of scammers (see SGS & INB above), the dishonest buyers ...... I reckon it's free market forces at their worst. (heavens, I sound like Matt now)
Oi!
I've got the copyright on being a lefty, pinko, anti-capitalist anarchist (sorry kids, did you think everyone over 40 was old and boring?)
But you are right Phil, free market is great (I actually support free markets, being an anarchist) but the downside is criminals and dishonesty thrive in such an environment. I always try to remember the scene in the TV series 'Kung Fu" where a robber is caught by the student Kane stealing a gold plate from the temple. The master's response to such an act? He handed the thief the other gold plate as a gift. No words were spoken. Perhaps too deep for some to comprehend, or perhaps not deep enough and I am simply looking too hard, like gazing into a pool and failing to see the water in the pool.
Can I put my own list of pet peeves related to coins?
Aluminum Coins
TV Coin Shows
Tele-marketers
eBay
Coin Dealers Selling Common Silver Quarters For $15
Brazilian Coins
Spanish Coins
Euro and Candian Commemoratives That Cost 4X Melt Value
My personal hate is te Ebay dealers that list their coins at a rediculously low price but when you go into the auction you find they're charging $100 for postage.
引用する: neilithicMy personal hate is te Ebay dealers that list their coins at a rediculously low price but when you go into the auction you find they're charging $100 for postage.
You can change the display in "Customize View" to include the shipping.
It used to be a common trick to avoid paying eBay their final value fee, but now they charge it on the ashipping too.
I believe it's a trick by unscrupulous sellers who will pretty much send you someting completely worthless then offer to refund your 99 cent purchase price but keep the $100 shipping.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
I found it was a favourite trick of the dealers coming out of China (whose coins were suspect for their authenticity anyway) It was against the ebay rules, I asked one if they had a lower shipping cost and his reply was "no, the price is cheap so I make up the price on the shipping" I sent through his details and his comment to the e-bay moderators and he was removed. Funnily enough there was a user with a similar username and similar material for sale the very next day.
What are some of these coin programmes? I have never seen coins on tv apart from a few on pawn stars.
I've just started selling World/British coins tokens and notes on eBay, and I'm guessing its gonna be a long hard process, but at least I'm 1 guy who won't skank buyers!!
引用する: zeekedeekWhat are some of these coin programmes? I have never seen coins on tv apart from a few on pawn stars.
I've just started selling World/British coins tokens and notes on eBay, and I'm guessing its gonna be a long hard process, but at least I'm 1 guy who won't skank buyers!!
I've never really watched them as their stuff is not something I'm interested in and it's WAAAY overpriced.
I think one of the shows is called Coin Vault and the other is the Coin Show. They are on either the HSN or the live auction network. Everyone seems to despise them as a numismatic version of Benny Hinn but I'm told that inbetween the slick sales pitches there is some good background information on coins.
Good luck with your efforts on eBay. Please feel free to send me your user ID via PM and I will check out your stuffs, I don't sell coins anymore but I used to list quite a lot. I gave it up following eBays abject failure to deal with credit card charge back scams. I still buy quite a lot though.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
This is what the forum used to be circa 2011 when we had NO moderators, just a more grown up type of membership.
The same post in 2014 would have been filled with screams of racism, colonialism, neo colonialism, irrelevant and/or plain dumb comments and a whole lot of backbiters clicking on the "report" button.
See a few old names from the past there eh?
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
Pet peeves... that requires dwelling on something repetitively, correct?
I don't think I was designed that way, for the most part. I try to call 'em as I see 'em. I either ignore various discrepancies in honesty, integrity, quality, etc. or I call 'em out and discuss it on the spot. Then I try to move on to something else.
Maybe cleaned coins and the "quality" individuals that continue to polish the frost off of coins. The levels of "quality" vary, from destroying an antique to making a mint UNC coin look more shiny and smell like lemons and olive oil. Here's to a future of swapping cleaning tips with cleaning ladies over tea/coffee, cheers to you all!
Oh yeah, piss poor invisible moderators that will send you a PM stating they do not want to get involved in an argument. What the hell are you both here for, decoration?
Yes, and now in 2014 our userbase cannot even revive an old thread without complaining, what a decline
OK, what do I hate?
World coins from the junk bin that look worth buying, but they are dirty or damaged once I inspect the other side
When I get a single ugly damaged wirebrushed coin in a swap and I still leave 5/5 feedback because I don't want to upset anyone
All wirebrushed coins anywhere (they go into my pocket so I can wear them down)
Ugly common Belgian coins!
Ugly common French coins!
Ugly common American coins!
Ugly common Polish coins! (sorry Poland your modern coins are very nice)
Finding American zinc pennies that aren't perfectly shiny
Cash-4-Gold kiosks that don't resell their foreign or Canadian silver coins and instead melt them down
Finding endless commemorative $1 and $2 that I want to keep but can't afford to
I was actually thinking of the dozen or so zincoln cents I've dug up... most of them aren't even round anymore. I think the SBA is a pretty decent design... at least it doesn't give me the willies like Jeff's empty stare does
I think everyone hates Zinc coins because they get damaged by the air so easily, its just not a good metal for coins, but I like them, they can look so cool.
Aluminum is just so cheap.
Taking a break from swapping for a while, but still interested in pre 1799 Spanish coins, I will make time for that!
Ole Eunice is a remarkably ugly woman but as the founder of the Special Olympics she must have been a decent person. I can think of a few who are ugly inside and out.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
I still hate all the Queen Elizabeth II coins that aren't from England. Too much waste of creativity there. PERSONAL OPINION, don't go hating me for that. And still I would love to get many coins from different countries even if I have to see her in everyone of them (I would just place her facing down, and problem solved).
Numista referee for the "Viceroyalty of the New Spain" (most of it).
History through coins.
Eli V
引用する: erdvillaI still hate all the Queen Elizabeth II coins that aren't from England. Too much waste of creativity there. PERSONAL OPINION, don't go hating me for that. And still I would love to get many coins from different countries even if I have to see her in everyone of them (I would just place her facing down, and problem solved).
Queen Elizabeth isn't just the Queen of England. She's also Queen of the countries that have her on their coins. So why should she be on British coins but not Canadian, Australian, New Zealand etc coins?
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