Gold 20 Franc [解決]

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Hi,

any thoughts on this?

It should be this one: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3390.html but leaves are somehow missing down there.
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I am pretty sure it is a fake, and not a very good one at that. The leaves are missing at the bottom as you mentioned. The 20 is too small and too low. The leaves don't meet in the middle at the top. No mintmark at the bottom. The font on the coin looks wrong.

I attach a pic of my 1858 A 20 Franc. The differences are quite severe.

Also the gap between the words at the top is too narrow.
It is always "too good to be truth" when I found some gold coins in a lot. :D
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Not always ;)

I found mine in a 12kg (25 lbs) bag of coins which I bought from Black Mountain Coins in the USA.
There seems to be also gold Roman coin in this lot and silver Yen - https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5505.html

But I am not really convinced. :D
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I would not trust this seller. The placement of the fake 20 Franc is very much so that you will notice the 'Gold' coin. He wants the buyer to notice it and spend too much. May even be worth reporting this sale to eBay to protect other buyers.
Already did, but there are also many nice coins in the lot, so as far as the price would not go too high, I would still buy it.

EDIT: Also, I do not think the auction site will even respond on that notice, as they would not know what is a fake..
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It's an unexplained gravitational phenomena that whenever a large lot of coins comes within 10 feet of a camera, all the "gold", 1800's and both of the silver coins wiggle their way up though the contents of a Mexican roadsweeper's cart and end up top and centre.

On the orders of President Obama, unscrupulous coin dealers have been rounded up and taken to Area51 for interrogation. NASA scientists have spent billions of dollars investigating the strange energy source to produce a means of interstellar travel. The new system is top secret and is known as the "ebay warp drive".

"Jim, we need lithium crystals and a fresh eBay crook or the engines cannae take it!"

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I could not hope for the better answer! :D
Thanks for getting my day a little better! B)

PS: Marking as solved, as more people got caught by this magical force, and I have been overpaid in the auction already. (and not going to spent any more<:D)
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Or another kind of Force...

This is not the topic you are looking for...

:O
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Surely the unexplained gravitational force is easily explained. Isn't it the same kind of force that pulls the rice?
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The 20 Franc coin in the picture is quite a bit larger than a real 20 franc gold coin.
It is larger than the nearby 23mm aluminum Vichy 1 Franc and a real 20 franc at 21mm would be smaller.

It might be a token of some kind, a picture of the other side would be interesting.
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