Failed catalog updates [解決]

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This message aims at: requesting the modification of a coin in the catalogue

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I've tried two modifications without apparent success. If this takes time, and I'm being impatient, just ignore. 

But I strongly suspect the problem is at my end, using an outdated phone, which does less and less. I'm further handicapped in that I l live off the grid without internet or electric. 

I do have a computer,  which uses way more data than the phone. I'll try this next.

Any suggestions will be welcome, keeping in mind that I am to computers as Charlie Brown is to kites.

What do you mean by failed? What is the status of your requests?

 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/contributions/liste_demandes.php

I have no way of knowing, other than they haven't gone through. If there is a review, time factor, then I'm bring premature, and I'll wait a few days. 

But I still think it's my phone.

Again, do your request show up? What is the status? If that link I posted shows no requests then you have not made the requests properly. If they show the status Pending then you just have to wait.

The link you posted shows I have no modification requests.

Then something went wrong and your request didn't go through. You can also make the requests by posting in this forum if you're having trouble because of your phone.

Thanks for your patience. I need to figure out how to do this, as I have several catalog updates pending.  I'll try again using the computer. If this doesn't work, I'll utilize the forum. Thanks again.

 When was update created / what country / what coin ? 

If I know those maybe I can have a look to see the status. 

 Also … on that link if the Filter is set to ‘All statuses’ then every 

current request, for last 30 days, will be listed. Different colours 

on the right give details - Pending / Validated / Canceled / and so on … 

 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Update was attempted this morning, country is UK, coin is N#6713.

I tried updating edge lettering, but the request never went through. Again, I'm pretty sure it's my phone. There's a lot of stuff it simply refuses to do. I'll try again once I fire up the computer. Thanks.

N#6713 

 Nothing in the list - no Pending and no Validated. 

So yes, it must have not been sent/received yet. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

My thanks to rsirian1 and ZacUK for informative responses. While I'm not new to numistatics, I am very new to the whole world of technology. What is obvious to the 20-40 year old is often baffling to me.

In an earlier post, I mentioned a few coins “pending”. In retrospect, I shouldn't have used that term, as it implies they have entered the system, which they have not.  At present, there are four coins not in the catalog, and three which could be updated. My goal is to be able to do this through the normal update system.

For coins not in the catalog, I'm still trying to figure out how to get suitable cropped images to upload. While I'm definitely an “old dog”, I do relish learning new tricks, and will get it sorted eventually.

Status changed to Done (Jarcek, 5 5月 2025, 00:02)

Sorry, but technically, if the request did not went through, I cannot do much.

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Understood.

rsirian1 suggested I could use the forum for update purposes. While I recognize this is not the most efficient method, I'll try it until I can solve my tech problems. If someone wants to run with it, great. If not, that's ok too. For me, it's all part of the learning curve.

 

First candidate is the afore mentioned N#6713. The catalog indicates that edge lettering exists. My example is 1792, and the lettering is:

“PAYABLE IN ANGLES LONDON OR LIVERPOOL” 

All caps, all three “n's” are reversed.

According to the OED, the term ‘angles’ is archaic and roughly translates to “whatever one wants”.

The catalog also indicates there are numerous variations of this coin. Should each and every one be catalogued? The curator in me says ‘absolutely’. The more practical part says ‘probably’. 

 Borrowing И from the Cyrillic alphabet 

 

it can be typed 

“PAYABLE IИ AИGLES LOИDOИ OR LIVERPOOL” 

 where there are four N / И letters. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 Always assuming - there are not the missing or unreadable EY letters, as well. 

“PAYABLE IN ANGLESEY LONDON OR LIVERPOOL” 

 A backward letter error is called retrograde - 

https://abccoinsandtokens.com/DH.Warks.339.007.html 

 which yes is a different reverse than on the Vulcan N# 6713 coin. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Thanks, ZacUK, all four ‘n’ letters are indeed retrograde, and there's no EY missing.

But none of this shows up in at least the version of N#6713 I can access. Herein lies my wanting to upgrade.

Here's another candidate to upgrade. Again, I'll be delighted if someone goes for it. If not, I'll get to it eventually.

This one is N#140855. First, I would add a reference : Eklund #32.

Second, this counter was also minted in copper. A minor addition, perhaps, but the curator strives for a complete accounting.

spauldingph

Thanks, ZacUK, all four ‘n’ letters are indeed retrograde, and there's no EY missing.

But none of this shows up in at least the version of N#6713 I can access. Herein lies my wanting to upgrade.

N#6713

 

This catalogue page was produced to provide general information about the Wilkinson / Vulcan token series and can also be used by members to record their collections, if their pieces are too worn to determine the exact type or variety.

 

If we have clear photos of a specific type and we know the D&H catalogue reference, then we should create a new page.

Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.

Thanks, radrick007.

I recognize there are numerous varieties, and listing them all might be impractical at best.

 

For myself, I don't have access to DH, Atkins, or other reference material, so cannot identify which variety I'm dealing with.

 

The catalogue mentions that edge lettering exists. I'm merely attempting to add at least the one example I know of.

For anyone interested, here's a couple more.

This is N#349620 

I have a couple of examples, similar but different.

First is by Wolf Lauffer II, (Eklund#80) in brass.

Second is by Conrad Lauffer (N#349620), and (Eklund#86) in copper, although both are listed as brass.

I'll do a final post here. It's planting season, and I'm frustrated at being house bound by over a week of rainy weather. But it has enabled me to look through stuff I haven't seen in decades. 

But I realize that what I'm doing is not at all efficient. It has, however awakened an interest which has been long dormant. So I can look forward to solving my technical difficulties and hopefully contribute in the future. I'll certainly keep monitoring the site, but won't post any more prospective updates. My thanks to all.

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