Making my own coin

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I am planning on making my own coin. I have already made a design for the coin, and I know someone who can make it for me. I designed it for the 250th anniversary of the founding of the town I’ve lived around my entire life, Uniontown, Pennsylvania. It was founded on July 4th, 1776, the same day the United States declared its independence

It will be 80 mm in diameter, 6 mm in thickness, and will be made of aluminum

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Original design I drew on paper (drawn to scale)

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Pluto2181930

I am planning on making my own coin. I have already made a design for the coin, and I know someone who can make it for me. I designed it for the 250th anniversary of the founding of the town I’ve lived around my entire life, Uniontown, Pennsylvania. It was founded on July 4th, 1776, the same day the United States declared its independence

It will be 80 mm in diameter, 6 mm in thickness, and will be made of aluminum

Forgot to mention that the color is based on height, white being lowest and dark gray being highest, each one going up in increments of 0.2 mm

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Will it be cast alumimum or stamped or what?

 

Making 1 or how many?

I’m not sure how it will be made, but it will be one of a kind

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Looking forward to the final product. Since you are putting $5, will you include some small engraved disclaimer? 

Oh, the only reason why I chose Five Dollars as the face value is because it seemed like a reasonable value for something of that size

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Making your own coins is not illegal in the US as long as it doesn't resemble real coins and you don't use them to pay taxes.

I definitely won’t use it as actual money

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

And considering that it is thrice the diameter of an half dollar, I don’t think anyone will mistake it for a real coin.

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Pluto2181930

I’m not sure how it will be made, but it will be one of a kind

 Shame, as I would like to buy one. 

Also on the reverse maybe move the top three lines across a 

little so they are centralised more. Such as > 

 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

I’m sorry, but I can’t really tell what has changed in the image

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

I may try to ask the person who’s making it to make an extra, then I could swap or sell it to whoever wants it

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

And for those who are wondering, the building on the reverse is the Fayette County Courthouse, which is the tallest building in the city, and the first building built in the city was built behind the courthouse, where the county jail now stands


The main reason I chose to put the courthouse on the coin is because it kinda reminds me of a bicentennial half dollar

 

This is a photo I just took of it, unfortunately I’m not at a good spot to take a picture of it right now

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Pluto2181930

I’m sorry, but I can’t really tell what has changed in the image

 The lettering on the original is shifted to the left, a small amount. 

On top left it is almost touching. Just me being picky. :) 

 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

ZacUK

Pluto2181930

I’m sorry, but I can’t really tell what has changed in the image

 The lettering on the original is shifted to the left, a small amount. 

Oh, I see it now. I made the design using adobe illustrator, and it says it’s centered on it, I guess it just looks off center because of the text

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Pluto2181930

ZacUK

Pluto2181930

I’m sorry, but I can’t really tell what has changed in the image

 The lettering on the original is shifted to the left, a small amount. 

Oh, I see it now. I made the design using adobe illustrator, and it says it’s centered on it, I guess it just looks off center because of the text

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Pluto2181930

Pluto2181930

ZacUK

Pluto2181930

I’m sorry, but I can’t really tell what has changed in the image

 The lettering on the original is shifted to the left, a small amount. 

Oh, I see it now. I made the design using adobe illustrator, and it says it’s centered on it, I guess it just looks off center because of the text

The same thing is happening with the hands on the clock, because the minute hand is so thick it looks like the second hand is off center

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Even though its not made yet, should I make a page for it in the catalog in anticipation of it?

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

N#466036 

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

 In that link there is one line of lettering that is not on the obverse - 

but a different line is. 

E PLURIBUS UNUM > IN GOD WE TRUST 

 or is the picture wrong? 

 

 Edit - lettering now changed, as it was mentioned in the description above it. 

Now waiting for the referee to approve the page. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Doesn’t the coin/token have to exist first. 

Do you are designing either a token or a medal not a coin (BTW in Italy is illegal to produce your own coins, I assume it is the same in USA)

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GiannaReggio

Do you are designing either a token or a medal not a coin (BTW in Italy is illegal to produce your own coins, I assume it is the same in USA)

I put it as a commemorative medal in the creation request, but in the U.S., it’s only illegal to produce coins that are meant to deceive people into thinking it’s a circulating coin (counterfeits). I don’t plan on using the coin as actual money though, so I’m able to make the coin

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

ZacUK

 In that link there is one line of lettering that is not on the obverse - 

but a different line is. 

E PLURIBUS UNUM > IN GOD WE TRUST 

 or is the picture wrong? 

 

 Edit - lettering now changed, as it was mentioned in the description above it. 

Now waiting for the referee to approve the page. 

Yeah, that was a mistake on my part. Thanks for changing it for me!

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

If I make a second one to sell/swap with someone, what would it be worth? The melt value of the aluminum is only 20 cents, but there is only two of them.

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

How much will it cost you to have two 3 inch dies made to produce 1 or 2 tokens of your design? Your chosen manufacturer can answer your questions about pricing. 

Pluto2181930

GiannaReggio

Do you are designing either a token or a medal not a coin (BTW in Italy is illegal to produce your own coins, I assume it is the same in USA)

I put it as a commemorative medal in the creation request, but in the U.S., it’s only illegal to produce coins that are meant to deceive people into thinking it’s a circulating coin (counterfeits). I don’t plan on using the coin as actual money though, so I’m able to make the coin

Could you not easily deceive an idiot tourist because it says „Five Dollars“ on it? Because it isn’t 5 Dollars surely that could count as deception, or? Wouldn’t it be best to leave the value off - so as to be 100% legal? Or have text Five Dollar Token or something.

„If your reply or post in the Forum stinks of AI, I will call you out! Knowledge comes from experience, the I in AI stands for incompetence.“

 Perhaps 0 Dollars like the 0 Euros banknotes seen on here. 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

Or just write a denomination in a currently non-existing currency? For example “5 thaler” or “5 daler”?

Neat idea, always fun to see some artistic talent. Looks like a nice simple “coin”, not too cluttered with excess stuff. Simple, direct to the point. I like it.

 

Just read up on some of the history, pretty cool to be created on the same day as your country, especially just by coincidence. Do find it funny that it's a city at only ~9,400 residents. Where I live is ~9,300 and we're considered a small town. Suppose it's an administrative thing & not based off population  - the smallest UK city has a mere ~1,700. Guess it's probably a similar story in the US. Anyway, enough sidetrack.

 

I know the others, correctly, say about the legality but if it's literally one in the world, it's basically never going to sneak out into circulation anyway so does it really matter? At least, in your own lifetime & after that, well you won't be around to suffer the punishment. 😛

 

I suppose you could call it “Zero” or use a “0” which might look less … not sure of the word. Zero just is a funny looking word y'know?

Or go for “1776” dollars or “250” dollars. Inflation would have to hit really hard to require a coin that size!

Or just call them good ol' “Pluto-bucks”. 🙂

 

I suppose you could also go for “Pennsylvania pounds” as a historic callback, or “Continental Dollars” which was the de jure (If not de facto) currency in 1776. I know they only issued banknotes & that the coins were just foreign (primarily British & Spanish I believe). Still, since it's not USD, would probably get you out of any legal issues.

 

Would probably then allow you to create a few extras if you wanted to gift/sell any.

 

Anyway, enough being sidetracked. Neat idea, good design, look forward to seeing the real deal. 🙂

Ok, so I noticed that some people don’t agree with me having “Five Dollars” on the coin, so I changed it. It now says “Five Scrips”, which is a hint towards the company scrips used in patch towns during the height of the coal mining industry. I haven’t seen any instances of scrips being used in Fayette County or the Uniontown area, but they were used in patch towns all over Southwestern Pennsylvania.

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Pluto2181930

Ok, so I noticed that some people don’t agree with me having “Five Dollars” on the coin, so I changed it. It now says “Five Scrips”, which is a hint towards the company scrips used in patch towns during the height of the coal mining industry. I haven’t seen any instances of scrips being used in Fayette County or the Uniontown area, but they were used in patch towns all over Southwestern Pennsylvania.

Agree or disagree wasn’t my intention, I purely didn’t want you to fall foul of the law. One thing I know for certain is if Police have it in for you for any reason they will find/use anything against you that they can, whereas other people can do what ever they want and get away with it. I wish you all the best with this item.

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The coin has been added to the catalog!

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Please share pictures of the result 😀

Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!

Doesn’t the coin/token/medal/banknote have to exist before the new catalog page is made?  

It’s not made yet, I think it may take a while for it to be made because the person making it is busy currently.

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

fjjohnson

Doesn’t the coin/token/medal/banknote have to exist before the new catalog page is made?  

I agree, so I hope the page does not get approved before the items exists.

Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!

BramVB

fjjohnson

Doesn’t the coin/token/medal/banknote have to exist before the new catalog page is made?  

I agree, so I hope the page does not get approved before the items exists.

N#466036

Why would such nonsensical-kindergarten-items added to our valuated catalogue???
It is nice someone made a thing he like, and maybe it is beautifull too.
But is completely bullsh*t to add it in the catalogue.
Tomorrow I am going to make some 'coins' on my lathe; should they be in the catalogue too????
We are on a real downwards spiral with this behaviour.

Or is it Numista who wants to have a million ‘coins’ added to set some kind of disputable world-record?

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yvon

Why would such nonsensical-kindergarten-items added to our valuated catalogue???
It is nice someone made a thing he like, and maybe it is beautifull too.
But is completely bullsh*t to add it in the catalogue.
Tomorrow I am going to make some 'coins' on my lathe; should the be in the catalogue too????
We are on a real downwards spiral with this behaviour.

Or is it Numista who wants to have a million ‘coins’ added to set some kind of disputable world-record?

This is really rude, I put a lot of effort into making this coin look very good, I made drawings for the design, and I added a lot of detail to it. In my opinion, I designed my coin like how a professional coin designer would. Just because it wasn’t made by a government or a company doesn’t mean that it has no place in Numista. This is a website for coin collecting and if someone wants to make their own coin, so what? The point of coin collecting is to have fun. Also, why target someone who just wants to make their own coin and not the country that has more types of collector coins than they do people? You’re acting like i made a low quality coin and added it to the catalog.

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Pluto2181930

yvon

Why would such nonsensical-kindergarten-items added to our valuated catalogue???
It is nice someone made a thing he like, and maybe it is beautifull too.
But is completely bullsh*t to add it in the catalogue.
Tomorrow I am going to make some 'coins' on my lathe; should the be in the catalogue too????
We are on a real downwards spiral with this behaviour.

Or is it Numista who wants to have a million ‘coins’ added to set some kind of disputable world-record?

This is really rude, I put a lot of effort into making this coin look very good, I made drawings for the design, and I added a lot of detail to it. In my opinion, I designed my coin like how a professional coin designer would. Just because it wasn’t made by a government or a company doesn’t mean that it has no place in Numista. This is a website for coin collecting and if someone wants to make their own coin, so what? The point of coin collecting is to have fun. Also, why target someone who just wants to make their own coin and not the country that has more types of collector coins than they do people? You’re acting like i made a low quality coin and added it to the catalog.

Sorry man, it was/is not my intention to be rude to anyone. My point is still, home-made things, wether they are nice or not, do not belong in a serious coin-catalogue, if you do not understand that, it is your problem. I do not like to go here in endless discussions. Imo there should not be any beerbottlecap-washer-homemade-Niue-fake coin in the catalogue.

...you can run,  but you can't hide...

I am not arguing for or against adding a self made vanity medal after it exists. I am arguing against adding it before it exists. A coin, medal, token is not a sketch on a piece of paper.  Your page should never have been created or validated until after you actually made one.

I agree, the page should not exist until the coin/token it represents also exists.

-Ash

I don’t see a problem with this particular piece being filed under tokens in the catalogue. that’s the beauty of having this online. Using filters is extremely easy and if you only collect for instance non-commemorative circulation Coins, then go ahead and filter accordingly. Similarly if you exclusively collect tokens, then filter as appropriate

 

however I do agree this particular catalogue entry should be taken down until the actual token has been made 

That is really cool!

I've been thinking about to design my own coins (tokens) and banknotes, but I have no idea how to get the idea from paper to an actual physical object.

 

Anyhow, please don't forget to post the final result here. 😊

ngdawa

That is really cool!

I've been thinking about to design my own coins (tokens) and banknotes, but I have no idea how to get the idea from paper to an actual physical object.

 

Anyhow, please don't forget to post the final result here. 😊

I won’t forget, but it may take a while though, since the person making it is busy

Did you know that Pluto is still a planet in Illinois and New Mexico and has de facto recognition as a planet in Arizona?

Pluto2181930

ngdawa

That is really cool!

I've been thinking about to design my own coins (tokens) and banknotes, but I have no idea how to get the idea from paper to an actual physical object.

 

Anyhow, please don't forget to post the final result here. 😊

I won’t forget, but it may take a while though, since the person making it is busy

Any progress on the creation? If it does not yet exist, chances are small it will come into existence and the current page needs removing!
5 Scrips - Uniontown Semiquincentennial – Numista

Just call me Bram

No new swaps for the moment, still too many half-ongoing swaps to clean up!

How was it even accepted as an existing coin without proof? So anyone can draw up a design and say it's a real coin? There needs to be stricter rules about this

Quick Slowness

How was it even accepted as an existing coin without proof? So anyone can draw up a design and say it's a real coin? There needs to be stricter rules about this

No, the rules (guidelines) just need to be enforced.  The guidelines for exonumia lead to this statement:

A coin is a rigid piece of material that has a determined value…

Clearly a sketch is not a rigid piece of material.

Clearly the submission approval was a mistake.

Also, where are yvon's lathed coins?

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