Is my 3 cent coin a fake?

Discussion about アメリカ合衆国 • 3 Cents "Trime" (type 2 - two lines bordering star)

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It feels real and I got it from a coin dealer. Its just that I posted it online and a couple of people were questioning the authenticity of the coin and I started to question it too.

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Do you mind cropping your two images, we need the coin only and not 5 acres of background.

Globetrotter
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This is how you present pictures (removing the background is not necessary but cropping is) if you have questions about a coin:

I only have a type 1, and do not have a lot of experience with early American coins, however from a visual point of view the wear looks real and I don’t see any obvious signs this is a fake. Obviously this is based purely on the images and I could only tell 100% if it was in my hand. I don’t think you should worry too much about its authenticity, I would be interested to evaluate the reasons why other people online thought it was fake? Or did they not specify why?

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Why do you doubts about that coin? Give us a hint, please.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Just some people on Reddit where saying it might be a fake and I just wanted to ask some others what they thought

Well it’s the most common (highest mintage) of that type, it looks like silver from the images. I doubt someone would fake a silver coin that weighs less than a gram.

Ask the people on Reddit to back up their theory of it being fake.

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Yea I will but while im here do you have any idea of the value/grade or expected value I could get from the coin? And is it worth getting graded?

Now I understand the context of the comments about „it could be fake“ you are interested in its value. Here is a link from the FAQ section of the website;

 

https://en.numista.com/help/how-much-is-my-coin-banknote-or-piece-of-exonumia-worth-31.html

 

Knock yourself out, this is a well traded coin within numismatics in America prices are easy to find, it is around VF in grade.

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Click the date.

 

 

I don't doubt your coin’s authenticity.  Here‘s one of a different date, but same type. All the details appear to match up. Chinese made counterfeits are often easily distinguishable when compared with genuine pieces. There are really good forgeries out there, but not typically of common dates.  My guess is that the Reddit “experts” fixated on the dark patina and the unusually strong strike (these trimes are, more often than not, weakly struck). 
 

You have a nice type coin there. I’d hold on to it. As for having it certified, I’d definitely skip. You’ll probably get a detail grade - Environmental Damage

All the other 5's for the 1858 have a slant 5, yours has a straight 5. It can be a variety of course.

I think it is good. There was a lot of variations of the date location.  

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Oh man thanks for all that work I appreciate you seem to know what your talking about so just from a visual what do you think you would grade it as and maybe the value of the Coin I'm planning on taking it to a dealer today to see what they have to say but I’m just curious 

Everything turns in the end into: did I  win in the lottery? Maybe, but be carefull of the applied tariffs. 

Where did the copper come from? Groenland?  Mexico?  The US?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

I don't usually grade coins so take this with a grain of salt, VF-XF, maybe $150-$200.

rsirian1

I don't usually grade coins so take this with a grain of salt, VF-XF, maybe $150-$200.

Same, the only ones I do are the ones that are clearly in uncirculated condition. To me it feels like diagnosing yourself with a disease

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