Tasmania [解決]

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This message aims at: requesting the creation or the modification of an issuer in the catalogue

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Hello,

 

Please can you create under Australia: Tasmania

For these coins.

Here the flag

Always look on the bright side of life!
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Why are we doing this? Tasmania is a State of Australia it is not a country?

 

Also the some of the Exonumia listed in the request has items that have nothing to do with Tasmania?

 

Mike

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brismike

Why are we doing this? Tasmania is a State of Australia it is not a country?

 

Also the some of the Exonumia listed in the request has items that have nothing to do with Tasmania?

 

Mike

They were just examples of potential items.

In Exonumia countries are called “locations”.

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brismike

Why are we doing this? Tasmania is a State of Australia it is not a country?

 

Also the some of the Exonumia listed in the request has items that have nothing to do with Tasmania?

 

Mike

They were just examples of potential items.

In Exonumia countries are called “locations”.

Well some of these"Potential Items" have absolutely nothing to do with Tasmania. The Grundy's Tokens are from Queensland.

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Sure, this list is all items which have the word tasmania somewhere, not all of those which can fall under tasmania :-)

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Sure, this list is all items which have the word tasmania somewhere, not all of those which can fall under tasmania :-)

Which is why this should be rejected. 

 

Mike

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It’s the same logical we applied with others territories like Ross dependency.

Or all the French southern antarctique islands or even Micronation and Fictional places.

Here are the item I asked to move:

N#358260
N#158332
 

Always look on the bright side of life!

Well this is flawed logic. Tasmania is not a Micronation or a Territory or a Fictional place. 

 

Tasmania is one of the six States that make up the Commonwealth of  Australia.  The others are New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland, South Australia & Western Australia.

 

Also the request on the first post above was this …. Please can you create under Australia: Tasmania

For these coins.

 

The Coins/exonumia in the link included some items that have nothing at all to do with Tasmania. The Grundy's Tokens are from Queensland and you only picked them up because they have a map of Australia with Tasmania missing and that is mentioned in the description of  the reverse.

 

Are you going to follow through with this thinking with the 50 States of the USA, the 13 Provinces of Canada?

 

As the referee for Australian Coins and Australian Exonumia I repeat, this request should be rejected.

 

Regards Mike

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Then should all these coins all be under France?

Or all these notes to United state?

 

Is this note design to belong to Australia?

Always look on the bright side of life!

Those are all much older pre 20th century items. You can do whatever you like with them.

 

 The ones you are trying to change in Australia are all post the creation of the Commonwealth of Australia.

 

Not going to happen.

 

Mike

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I think we do not talk of the same thing here. In Exonumia countries are called “locations”. It means anytime an item is linked with a place, we create it as a location (which is not considered as a country).

There are many examples  of this logic already in Exonumia section. Example: Antarctica, Corsica, …

This is an medal that was attempted to be changed by Indomini16 that I have rejected.

 

N#298012

 

It is regarding the Ferry that runs across the Bass Straight between Melbourne in Victoria and Devonport in Tasmania.

This was issued on the Ferry, sometimes in Victoria, sometimes in Tasmania but always in Australia.

 

The reverse of the medal says “Australian Souvenir Coin

 

It does not say “Tasmanian Souvenir Coin”. 

 

I re-iterate Tasmania is not a Micronation, Territory or Fantasy place. 

I have no problem with places such as Christmas Island being dealt with in this way, as it is an External Territory, separate from Australia.

 

Tasmania is an integral part of Australia which is also a Country, Continent and a very large Location.

 

Mike

Master Referee - See my profile for what I collect.
 

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