Clint_
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 10:47
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I know the condition is very poor but i hope someone might help identifying this coin.
25-26mm diameter
I can distinguish "ET.RD" or maybe its "FERD" piece of text
On the back also "RFO" or "REO" piece of text
My best guess - Ferdinand of Bavaria coin -, a Brabant Liege Liard or smth
ZacUK
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 11:03
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On the back may be REC lettering.
And yes, other side may have FERDI as start of FERDINAND lettering.
Perhaps:
Spanish Netherlands
1 Oord - Ferdinand
Edit. Lettering may be >
FERDIN ET ELISABETH // FERD COM DE LIN RECHEM
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ZacUK
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 11:12
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Or perhaps >
Belgium. Reckheim. Ferdinand d'Aspremont Lynden (1636-1665). Duit
from which gives REC and FERDI lettering.
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Frenchlover
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 11:13
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Referee of south atlantic islands
Clint_
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 11:39
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引用する: "Frenchlover" It's the shield of Liege That's what I thought but all center shield of Liege seem to have a line whereas this coin has some kind of spread wing eagle or bird.
At least all the ones I own or browsed.
Frenchlover
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 13:42
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Why not
Ferdinand D'Aspremont-Lynden (*1611 - †1665), that might lead to a contemporary counterfeit from
Reckheim
duiten.nl, De catalogus, Graafschap Reckheim
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ZacUK
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 14:37
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引用する: "ZacUK" On the back may be REC lettering.
And yes, other side may have FERDI as start of FERDINAND lettering.
Perhaps:
Spanish Netherlands
1 Oord - Ferdinand
Edit. Lettering may be >
FERDIN ET ELISABETH // FERD COM DE LIN RECHEM When I wrote that earlier, this was the coin I was looking at >
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces69156.html
even though it is
not the same coin. It has similar lettering, plus
the eagle with wings in the centre of the shield design.
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Clint_
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 15:00
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Thx guys, i think you nailed it !
Status changed to Solved
(Clint_ , 20 2月 2022, 15:02)
Frenchlover
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 18:05
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Once again ZacUK, Reckheim split in several places as Dutch republic, Spanish Netherlands and even Liege is a pity for our catalogue that should gather these coins of this HRE county
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Posted: 20 2月 2022, 23:22
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frenchlover, I found this one mis-placed in Liege and will submit the modification request:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces187126.html
Are there others in Liege?
I've been working on some areas of the catalog in Low Countries, but not yet Reckheim.