USA: 1 cent 1800, km22, two overdates / hair styles

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Comments? Thanks in advance.
Globetrotter
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Under the pictures you use "1st hair style" and "2nd hair style" while in the boxes above you use "Style 1 hair" and "Style 2 hair".
It's better to always use the same terminology. In my opinion, "Style 1 hair" and "Style 2 hair" don't sound nice.


Right you are.
Globetrotter
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I think I would describe the hair styles as 'curl downwards' and 'curl upwards'.
They say "Pecunia non olet", but I know better...
Hi,

here is another macro showing the two hair styles

here is the first

It's not easy to find the proper terms.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com


Which "style" do you prefer for the differences between the two "hair styles"?
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
To me the most glaring difference between the two styles and the easiest way to tell them apart is the "extra curl near shoulder" as stated in the Red Book. When I look at other coins and try to tell if the curl is "up" or "down" it's just a wild guess. There is no confusion when using the extra curl to tell the difference.

Also, put the overdate lines on top. That's the main variant and change 80/97 to 80/79.

Add 2nd hair style under Normal date.


Better?
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
This is the 1798. Can you post it on the 1798 thread to keep things straight? I do have some additional comments.
Back to the 1800.

I don't think we need the pictures defining the 1st and 2nd hair styles on this graphic. They have been defined on the 1798 graphic. No sense in doing it again.
There I'm not agreeing with you. Each graphic should correspond to all the coins varieties (stand alone principle). We can not expect the collectors to read all of the graphics to find a definition appearing more than once.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
OK. Good point. But make it similar to the 1798.
引用する: "Sjoelund"

​Better?

You're still using different terminology.
Yes, it seems I didn't save my ppt as jpg!

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
引用する: "Essor Prof"​You're still using different terminology.

​He fixed it on the thread for 1798.

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic114307.html


Is the current version
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
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Yep...that's the one I based my last comments on. I'll start over:

Replace the hair styles graphics to the ones on the 1798 final.
Change to 1st style of hair and 2nd style of hair (as used in the 1798).
Put the overdate lines on top. That's the main variant and change 80/97 to 80/79.
Add 2nd style of hair under Normal date.
Replace the hair styles graphics to the ones on the 1798 final.
Change to 1st style of hair and 2nd style of hair (as used in the 1798).
Put the overdate lines on top. That's the main variant and change 80/97 to 80/79.
Add 2nd style of hair under Normal date.
1 OK
2 OK
3???? oh I see, in text box you mean? Not clear.
4 OK
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
I meant like this (same as the 1798). I think the curl up/curl down is dubious at best.


?
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Why do you want to keep the curl up/curl down graphic. I thought we decided that wasn't a very good way to distinguish them and may not even be right when looking at other coins. The 1800 hair graphic and the 1798 hair graphic should be the same. It's the same variation.
I do NOT want it either, but I simply forgot to take it out!
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
引用する: "Sjoelund"​I do NOT want it either, but I simply forgot to take it out!
​Haha. OK then...glad I asked.
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
yes

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