10 Afghanis - Does it exist?

This is about this coin: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36992.html

I've only found two sources of its existance.

1.- Standard Catalog of Modern Coins 1901-2000


2.- A Catalog of Modern Coins of Afghanistan


More important, we can see that both catalogs use the same picture. Other catalogs like Yeoman's Catalog of Modern World Coins and МОНЕТЬI СТР АН 3АРУБЕЖНОЙ А3ИИ И АФРИКИ do not list this coin.


Also, i haven't been able to found this coin in Heritage Auctions, eBay, numiscorner, maShops. NGC lists it but there is no picture of it: https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/afghanistan-10-afghanis-km-948-1336-cuid-1068048-duid-1215413

So first i want to ask if anyone has found this coin or any other intance of it's existance. And if it does exist, do you think that it circulated or maybe it is only a Pattern and that's why there seems to be only one picture of it.

Hi,

from the numismaster site today



I do NOT have it, but that does NOT mean, it doesn't exist!

Hello,

Yes, it is on Numismaster but Krause Publication created Numismaster so everything in their catalogs is on Numismaster. And also, outside of its appearance in this catalogs, there is no other proof of its existance. They all use the same picture and there is no other picture of it, no one sells it, auction houses don't list it and all catalogs that have it, use a picture of the same specimen and it is the only picture that exists.

Yet a dozen or so Numista members knowingly or accidentally claim to have it since the NIR is 87. Of course that doesn't mean a thing since we've already learned a lot of tick boxes have been ticked wrongly.

引用する: "Essor Prof"​Yet a dozen or so Numista members knowingly or accidentally claim to have it since the NIR is 87. Of course that doesn't mean a thing since we've already learned a lot of tick boxes have been ticked wrongly.

​Would be interesting to know what do those dozen of people who own this coin say about its existence :)

I do not really care if a registered coin does NOT exist in reality, since I'll never get it On the other hand, it's very important to register all the coins not in numista yet

Recent past sale of discussed coin https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=13314903

with comment “This type was never released for circulation. A small group surfaced in about the 1980s, quickly sold out, and none have appeared on CoinArchives and ACSearch since 2000.”

Manuel AV
I've only found two sources of its existance. 

And here's the third one: Gerhard Schön, Welt Munzkatalog, 20. Jahrhundert, 1901 - 2000, 44 Auflage (2016)

 

ArsenEverlast

Recent past sale of discussed coin https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=13314903

with comment “This type was never released for circulation. A small group surfaced in about the 1980s, quickly sold out, and none have appeared on CoinArchives and ACSearch since 2000.”

 

Should its type be changed to non-circulating coin then?

That would require a new Object Type: Non-issued coins similar to the Object Type Non-issued banknotes created recently.

rsirian1

That would require a new Object Type: Non-issued coins similar to the Object Type Non-issued banknotes created recently.

Now all not issued coins are under the non-circulating category.

N#19618

N#34934

N#11602

But I support the addition of a new category.

True, but there shouldn't be inconsistencies. Do we know all not issued coins are under the non-circulating category? There seems to be some more identified fairly often.  The argument is usually, “yes, they never did circulate" and "no, they were intended for circulation so don't fit the definition of non circulating coin.” A new object type resolves those arguments.

And let’s think about how to separate non issued coins from trial coins and patterns.  

The same way banknoytes are.

 

Banknotes that were prepared for circulation and printed but never issued for circulation.
 

I think this solves the issue?

 

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic158161.html